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gulliver

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21. I'm largely in agreement
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 04:16 PM
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You do recognize that there has been a departure from the linguistic pattern of using the word "phobia" only for "fear." I reluctantly accept that usage defines a language, of course. It's not my cup of tea to have a popular departure from a fairly beautiful etymological history and usage pattern happen in my time, I guess.

People who hear the word "phobia" and think only "dislike" in select cases such as "homophobia," I would think were once rare. But now, that's basically the accepted understanding. Still, a lot of people can misunderstand that there's an implication of fear, and that comes along with a pejorative connotation that doesn't help mutual understanding.

When I hear "antisemitism," I hear a lot of emotions. I automatically translate the word into a description of an attitude that tempts people to self-defeating weakness, paranoia, and spiraling to criminal-mindedness if they don't manage to bump into some wisdom on the way down.

I trust that you know that using German won't work as a way to talk about it with people who don't know German. In a related way, people who have a hard time accepting that people they befriend or, worse, that they themselves have the capacity to hate someone who isn't evil might not truly hear the phrase "Jew hatred." I don't know if it's superstition, though, but I do think I'm seeing a lot more deep reading from some of these young people. So maybe they'll figure it out.

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When people have attempted to muddle the meaning of antisemitic sarisataka Saturday #1
That definitely adds a forceful historic bite to it gulliver Saturday #7
Can you give an example of who and what you would consider phobic JI7 Saturday #2
Arachnophobia, agoraphobia... gulliver Saturday #11
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Saturday #12
It's definitely one pathway, fear to hate gulliver Saturday #14
But how about when it comes to Jewish people JI7 Saturday #17
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Saturday #3
Phobia implies fear; anti- as a prefix mostly means against biophile Saturday #4
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Saturday #6
I agree but it depends on the audience gulliver Saturday #9
Sounds reasonable, yes biophile Saturday #22
The term "Semite" is basically inaccurate and effectively obsolete, so why isn't "Anti-Semitic" the same ? eppur_se_muova Saturday #5
The racist definition of Semites was developed in the 1770s sarisataka Saturday #10
That's the thinking behind removing the hyphen Mosby Saturday #13
Here's my take: semite is race oriented, and jew relates to theology. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Saturday #8
I couldn't remember what its derivation was, if I ever knew muriel_volestrangler Saturday #15
That take is incorrect sarisataka Saturday #16
I see 'shem' as the remnant of a much longer phrase that has been shortened into one syllable. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Sunday #25
"Shem" means, roughly, "name", and can have the same implication of "reputation" as in English muriel_volestrangler Sunday #26
Semitic is a language group Mosby Saturday #20
Why? Behind the Aegis Saturday #18
I'm largely in agreement gulliver Saturday #21
Language as a weapon Behind the Aegis Saturday #23
I see antisemitism as prejudice too. gulliver Saturday #24
Those two expressions have very, very different meanings. MineralMan Saturday #19
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