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In reply to the discussion: Replacing "antisemitic" with "Jew-phobic" [View all]Behind the Aegis
(55,726 posts)23. Language as a weapon
You do recognize that there has been a departure from the linguistic pattern of using the word "phobia" only for "fear."
Of course I do, which is why I said:
"Phobia" as a suffix means "fear" when used as a psychological term (arachnophobia, hippophobia), but among sociologists, "-phobia" represents "dislike" (homophobia, Islamophobia). In legal circles, it represents "hate". The suffix can cause confusion, but it usually is pretty understandable given context.
I reluctantly accept that usage defines a language, of course. It's not my cup of tea to have a popular departure from a fairly beautiful etymological history and usage pattern happen in my time, I guess.
Regardless if it is your 'cup of tea' or not, usage does create and redefine words. Sometimes, for ill, sometimes as culture or time dictates the need for new usage. The Holocaust wiped out almost 2/3rds of the Jews in Europe. But it would not be odd to hear someone say: "The Nazis decimated the Jewish population of Europe, and even its world population." The word "decimate" literally means "to remove 1 in 10". That is obviously not what happened, as more than 10% of Jews in Europe (almost 70%) and almost half of the world Jewish population were gone. I am guessing you know what this is:

The name of the animal is hippopotamus. The literal translation: "River horse" . It is obviously not a horse, but there it is in the name.
People who hear the word "phobia" and think only "dislike" in select cases such as "homophobia," I would think were once rare. But now, that's basically the accepted understanding. Still, a lot of people can misunderstand that there's an implication of fear, and that comes along with a pejorative connotation that doesn't help mutual understanding.
The issue is education and not catering to ignorance. While defining anti-Semitism and acts related to it can create gray areas, the definition should not be, and I, and others, do see the attempts to change it to as distraction, dishonesty, and often, just plain old bigotry. "Anti-Semitism" is "prejudice, discrimination, or hostility directed at Jewish people." PERIOD! It is NOT "prejudice, discrimination, or hostility directed at people who are 'Semetic or speak Semitic languages' nor does the definition make caveats for who are NOT anti-Semites, a common bullshit tactic I see from some who claim; "Palestinians can't be anti-Semitic because they are Semites!" So what?! Let's pretend that the definition really was about "Semites" it still wouldn't mean they are excluded from being bigots because they belong to the targeted group. For some, this will be a newsflash; Jews can be anti-Semites too! Just like non-white folk can be racist, gays can be homophobic, old/young people can be ageist, and women can be sexist.
Trying to redefine the word to ease the tsuris of people who take issue with Jews is a fool's errand because no matter what word is chosen, the same bullshit game-playing will take place. It is also stupid to pretend that "transphobia" really means "fear of crossing". I am guessing such a "redefinition" of that word in such a way, especially to excuse or mitigate an act of transphobia, would not be tolerated here.
When I hear "antisemitism," I hear a lot of emotions. I automatically translate the word into a description of an attitude that tempts people to self-defeating weakness, paranoia, and spiraling to criminal-mindedness if they don't manage to bump into some wisdom on the way down.
I admit I don't understand that paragraph in the least.
I will end with: anti-Semitism (antiSemitism, antisemitism) is prejudice, discrimination, or hostility directed at Jewish people. Anyone trying to make it out as if it is not, well, their motives are the ones who need to be changed, not the definition of the word "anti-Semitism" or however one chooses to spell it.
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The term "Semite" is basically inaccurate and effectively obsolete, so why isn't "Anti-Semitic" the same ?
eppur_se_muova
Saturday
#5
Here's my take: semite is race oriented, and jew relates to theology.
RedWhiteBlueIsRacist
Saturday
#8
I see 'shem' as the remnant of a much longer phrase that has been shortened into one syllable.
RedWhiteBlueIsRacist
Sunday
#25
"Shem" means, roughly, "name", and can have the same implication of "reputation" as in English
muriel_volestrangler
Sunday
#26