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22. no one has ever made a proposal that they know the opposition won't accept
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 08:27 PM
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...in order to call their bluff for everyone to see.

Of course they have. it's fucking standard political opposition, but the rub is a Dem electorate accustomed by troll after troll encouraging them to attack their own party instead.

It's something to behold, and you can count me out.

It's a binary political system with a dangerous party in control on one side and our Dems we managed to elect through all of the trolling on the other.

There isn't any Internet Outrage party that's going to make that equation any different. We can either bend the arc toward Democrats, or we can do this stupid outrage thing over politics that we have zero actual responsibility for managing as if our legislators were a meme or a monolith for internet gripers to take pot shots at instead of take the time to EVER support them.

Does anyone remember this republican party EVER trashing their party leaders for ANY political initiative? In the meantime, here we are claiming proposals are 'caves' as if the legislature was meant to be just some protest instead of governance.

As MOW organized Bayard Rustin wrote in his book, 'Strategies for Freedom,' activists often substitute and mistake volume and militancy for progress.

For a political movement to succeed, he wrote, it must have a legislative goal at the head of its advocacy to transform agitation into action.

Maybe turn down the volume against our own leaders charting a path forward, and point us to a legislative solution.

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It's too clever for us to understand leftstreet Sunday #1
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Sunday #4
It's actually pretty easy leftstreet Sunday #7
In other words, the usual Beltway kabuki theater Bluetus Sunday #9
Schumer said he's voting no SocialDemocrat61 Sunday #13
He'll still be blamed leftstreet Sunday #18
Fair point SocialDemocrat61 Sunday #24
In other words. choie Sunday #28
I believe Schumer is too blame. Trueblue1968 Sunday #38
Its 10-dimensional Chess...... TheRealNorth Sunday #33
Dems had a clear mandate to fight and fight hard. Irish_Dem Sunday #2
Schumer was always looking to 'compromise' not to fight JCMach1 Sunday #3
Bend over not compromise orangecrush Sunday #12
Remember when Biden was forced out? nt BootinUp Sunday #5
Remember when he said he was going to be a one term president? Alpeduez21 Sunday #17
The big money donors forced him out yes. I guess you don't read much real news. As to your BootinUp Sunday #53
They're being led by old school thinking Baitball Blogger Sunday #6
AOC BlueKota Sunday #49
What about the DU post basically saying Axios is full of shit? yliza Sunday #8
We were right to be skeptial IbogaProject Sunday #15
Is it possible Schumer will take the heat yorkster Sunday #10
He already is SocialDemocrat61 Sunday #11
I mean that Schumer is willing to take yorkster Sunday #16
Hes voting no. Just now from Senate floor. yorkster Sunday #20
Pretty sure the house has already passed this legislation Alpeduez21 Sunday #19
You may be right. I thought it had to go yorkster Sunday #25
I've heard or found conflicting infomation so I don't know what gonna happen Alpeduez21 Sunday #42
I read in a thread here since the bills don't match BlueKota Sunday #50
Oh you think Jeffries choie Sunday #30
And so what if he does remain opposed. choie Sunday #32
I hear a bit of snark... yorkster Sunday #44
more than a bit. choie Sunday #47
No need to inject negativity here. yorkster Sunday #48
I'm reminded of the nickname the sailors on the USS Caine had for Captain Queeg. BannonsLiver Sunday #14
Dems will lose the midterms if they do this, and they will deserve it Takket Sunday #21
Counterpoint: No they won't Prairie Gates Sunday #23
no one has ever made a proposal that they know the opposition won't accept bigtree Sunday #22
Do you remember the republican party choie Sunday #34
I saw an expression or something on social media years ago EnergizedLib Sunday #26
Wow, I've not heard that before. choie Sunday #35
Slotkin is voting no. James48 Sunday #27
Those electoral wins have no bearing on Congress at this point EdmondDantes_ Sunday #29
Pissing off much of their voting base doesn't seem to be very smart a year from a major election. nt yaesu Sunday #36
What has changed from a month ago? choie Sunday #37
A bunch of people lost paychecks, a bunch of people didn't get SNAP benefits, a bunch of flights got cancelled EdmondDantes_ Sunday #45
Again, choie Sunday #46
That's an argument for not having the shutdown, it's not an argument in favor of sticking with a losing plan EdmondDantes_ Sunday #51
Not complicated at all there was going to be massive suffering the moment Trump got back into office standingtall Sunday #41
This message was self-deleted by its author geojazz Sunday #43
Pissing off their entire voting base doesn't seem to be very smart so maybe brain worms are contagious? nt yaesu Sunday #31
NO!!!! NO!!!! FUCK SCHUMER AND THE HORSE HE RODE IN ON!!! AverageOldGuy Sunday #39
Tim Kaine was Hillary's biggest mistake. yourout Sunday #55
People need to ask themselves which constituents they think any given politician is working for. RockRaven Sunday #40
I mean, it won't look good when Republicans vote no next month EnergizedLib Sunday #52
Because we have stealth Republicans wearing the blue. yourout Sunday #54
Here's a left field theory Shipwack Sunday #56
Time for a reckoning‼️ flying-skeleton Monday #57
To make it even worse FHRRK Monday #58
I hate to be a conspiracy theorist, but is seem that the Democratic Party has been infiltrated by fake democrats W T F Monday #59
What huge electoral wins? SocialDemocrat61 Monday #60
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Monday #61
Me too SocialDemocrat61 Monday #62
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