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fujiyamasan

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77. This right here

Mon Nov 10, 2025, 12:57 AM

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I just got laid off. My pittance of a portfolio will be happy tomorrow, but I know that if after COBRA runs out, and I’m still unemployed I’ll be screwed.

We’re facing a brewing unemployment crisis, and the timing for this is going to hurt a lot of people very badly. I’m sure I’ll be better than many others.

Over a year after Trump was elected, I still don’t see a coherent strategy by democratic congressional leaders. Hell, this isn’t even leadership. It’s the opposite of it. The leadership dragged this fight for a few weeks, got nothing out of it, and then gave in, just when it looked like voters were blaming the republicans for the shutdown.

Fuck it, maybe Trump is a better negotiator than we have him credit for. The piece of shit held his ground and has left a nasty orange streak covering many democratic senator’s faces.

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Trump Won the Shutdown [View all] Prairie Gates Nov 9 OP

Again. Squaredeal Nov 9 #1

So now they know deprivation is a weapon leftstreet Nov 9 #2

Gives a whole new meaning to "We are the Ones We're Waiting For." Prairie Gates Nov 9 #4

He was using all the Americans as hostages. And he was threatening to kill them all yellow dahlia Nov 9 #22

Abd they will use it time and slightlv Nov 9 #32

THIS officially marks popsdenver Monday #124

We had so much enthusiasm & positive energy. CrispyQ Nov 9 #3

Well. Why protest? Our leaders slightlv Nov 9 #34

It was eight people creeksneakers2 Monday #135

It was an engineered vote. CentralMass Monday #138

Where is your evidence? creeksneakers2 Monday #144

It wasn't eight people LR3 Monday #141

Where is your evidence? creeksneakers2 Monday #143

Agreed! jcmaine72 Monday #87

Agree, why protest ? republianmushroom Monday #123

Not really....................... Lovie777 Nov 9 #5

I agree but what would you have them do? berkerly6240 Nov 9 #6

Fuck off orangecrush Nov 9 #7

Post removed Post removed Nov 9 #21

"What would you have THEM do?" Lancero Nov 9 #24

I wasn't telling you to fuck off orangecrush Nov 9 #27

Also the word bitch orangecrush Nov 9 #29

If they were going to cave, then why hold out this long? hamsterjill Nov 9 #9

It was a mistake to let the government shut down at all gulliver Monday #97

Agreed mostly. hamsterjill Monday #102

It was an uphill battle unfortunately gulliver Monday #108

I absolutely hope that YOU are correct. hamsterjill Monday #110

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Monday #117

I'm funny to you? gulliver Monday #122

Start by making the ACA/healthcare non-negotiable. tinrobot Nov 9 #12

It's the only thing that they were holding out for... Hugin Nov 9 #14

And they chose to give Bettie Monday #107

They should have held the line, and dug in deeper. Repug voters have not felt enough pain yet. Hotler Monday #88

Hold the line quakerboy Monday #118

Obamacare a gone Johnny2X2X Nov 9 #8

I'm one of those. I'm beyond furious and into despair Arazi Nov 9 #15

Peculiar that the Trump admin undid the Biden rule against reporting medical debt on peoples credit scores. ChicagoTeamster Nov 9 #66

Peculiar? BWdem4life Monday #73

More property for them to buy! Vance and Thiel are more than ready to sell all our land travelingthrulife Monday #91

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Democrats will deserve it. They've been holding donor interest LuvLoogie Nov 9 #20

Really? All Democrats? You think I'm responsible? Bobstandard Nov 9 #35

Fine they should get what they deserve vercetti2021 Nov 9 #36

4d chess. Republicans refuse to pass the ACA extensions, and we can blame them... Lancero Nov 9 #26

No Jon Stewart was right Bobstandard Nov 9 #37

It's not millions of Americans angrychair Nov 9 #31

Yes, the republicans pitted federal workers against SNAP recipients vs those benefiting from the ACA fujiyamasan Nov 9 #46

What happened is that the private jet donor class set was about to be inconvenienced by the real world repercussions of. Hugin Nov 9 #10

This is the correct answer. The donors were about to be inconvenienced by airport shutdowns. They forced Dems to cave. LonePirate Nov 9 #53

This right here fujiyamasan Monday #77

It wasn't the leadership that caved. creeksneakers2 Monday #136

Hear Hear! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Monday #83

You nailed it Ruby the Liberal Monday #84

He also said No Compromise ... and eliminate the filibuster dweller Nov 9 #11

I hate trump with a fiery passion EnergizedLib Nov 9 #13

Fortitude appears to be in short supply Bobstandard Nov 9 #38

Such incredible weakness by the leaders of the Democratic Party ..... Escape Nov 9 #16

Isn't AOC after his senate seat in 2028? ClaudetteCC Nov 9 #17

She'd win in a landslide LR3 Monday #142

Trump won the shutdown venusgirl Nov 9 #19

You do have to think the caving Senators have made special deals Bobstandard Nov 9 #39

Then they are fools. No deals are honored by that lot. RockRaven Nov 9 #68

I am disgusted with our leadership Scubamatt Nov 9 #23

DACO LuvLoogie Nov 9 #30

I'd forgotten about that "dry powder" bullshit. FoxNewsSucks Nov 9 #65

Because they aren't all at fault creeksneakers2 Monday #137

They are laughing their asses off. Emile Nov 9 #25

We didn't even get brakes on the illegal rescissions Arazi Nov 9 #28

I see it this way. ForgedCrank Nov 9 #33

Classi strawman argument Bobstandard Nov 9 #40

I think this is a good assessment petronius Nov 9 #41

Weak sauce. nt Bobstandard Nov 9 #48

It validates the claim that the Dems own the shutdown pain Ruby the Liberal Monday #85

It's a bad assessment lakercub Monday #98

I wish I shared your optimism. Gimpyknee Nov 9 #44

But what ForgedCrank Nov 9 #45

Reagan was nothing compared to this fascist clown and his lemmings that control all branches of government. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 9 #56

This is garbage - for starters Schumer couldn't lead a toddler to the shitter after this fiasco . . . hatrack Nov 9 #59

I would ForgedCrank Nov 9 #62

Toodles. hatrack Nov 9 #63

No need ForgedCrank Nov 9 #64

the GOP could have ended it on their own. This is absolute bullshit. Make them end the filibuster god damn it. Jbraybarten Monday #90

Great way to look at the situation. Katinfl Monday #92

A lot to disagree with here lakercub Monday #99

Totally agree, but we HAVE been demanding that they stand up LearnedHand Monday #106

100 percent lakercub Monday #111

Yep, fascism won and they even poured cold water on Tuesdays victories, we are back to zero as in zero hope. nt yaesu Nov 9 #42

I was proud to be a Democrat again for all of four days. That's over with as of today. flashman13 Nov 9 #43

I wonder what the energy is going to be like for the Next No Kings Protest SunImp Nov 9 #47

Cried "Uncle". BurnDoubt Nov 9 #49

It is not acceptable that he keeps winning. Queso Delicioso Nov 9 #50

And what do the low info white male voters see? FHRRK Nov 9 #71

People ought to ask themselves which constituents each Senator is serving. RockRaven Nov 9 #51

Dick Durbin's constituents are getting tear gassed in their neighborhoods Prairie Gates Nov 9 #52

They wanted that last batch of donor money. They're probably going to leave. Durbin is retiring. Had nothing to lose. ChicagoTeamster Nov 9 #54

The Democrats who voted for this... flying-skeleton Nov 9 #55

The fact that two retiring Dems voted for it tells you that a lot more supported it Prairie Gates Nov 9 #58

This analysis also exposes the falsity of the argument some have made that Schumer RockRaven Nov 9 #67

Exactly right: this is a choreographed vote - Yeas and Nays on the Dem side negotiated with Leadership Prairie Gates Nov 9 #70

My guess is Schumer orchestrated it, he knows how to count votes, and cover his own ass. dem4decades Monday #104

We were riding high after the Tuesday elections and now this. Grim Chieftain Nov 9 #57

Can't blame them fujiyamasan Monday #78

We've been on our own for over 40 years...republicans will mock us Bread and Circuses Nov 9 #60

Get the hats out PlanetPolitics Nov 9 #61

Agreed! Grim Chieftain Monday #75

This is why we DON'T GIVE IN TO TERRORISTS! Sparkly Nov 9 #69

And they *still* can't figure out why people are leaving the party in droves? LearnedHand Nov 9 #72

I have more than a few friends that berksdem Monday #95

Shut down ms.pamela Monday #74

Dems were playing pinochle C_U_L8R Monday #76

No. ._. Monday #79

Traitors need to be primaried flying-skeleton Monday #80

Oh, it was arranged such that nobody is up next year Prairie Gates Monday #81

They fight to win for their voters RandiFan1290 Monday #82

No he didn't. If anything, he really, really, really lost. We saw him demolishing the people's house for his Vinca Monday #86

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If the government isn't open, you can't take a vote. Stay in shutdown and the GOP is happy as a clam because Vinca Monday #112

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Another thing to consider is that this funding is for such a short period of time, we could be right back in Vinca Monday #115

Yes. mr715 Monday #129

Sadly true! Denis 11 Monday #89

Absolutely David__77 Monday #94

I wonder what the next step should have been Hope22 Monday #96

I think when John Stewart asked Chris Hayes and David Plouffe after Tuesday's elections, Ol Janx Spirit Monday #100

No he did not. bucolic_frolic Monday #101

He is laughing his ass off at us! Emile Monday #103

He didn't win Bettie Monday #105

Fair point! Prairie Gates Monday #109

Fkd by the back stabbing caucus Fullduplexxx Monday #114

Who "won" the shutdown remains to be seen. Redleg Monday #116

Claim victory. Thats what THEY do all the time. WE DID IT! Callie1979 Monday #119

Trump won the battle happy feet Monday #120

Yup ! republianmushroom Monday #121

They were always going to "win". They are the party in charge of ALL THREE branches of government (and the courts)... QueerDuck Monday #125

Why must Democrats insist on padding Republican whip counts? nt mr715 Monday #130

They live in the real world and they understand the nature of politics... QueerDuck Monday #131

But not really, right? mr715 Monday #132

Thanks for your thoughtful and well-reasoned response. QueerDuck Monday #133

Eight traitors Duncanpup Monday #126

Welcome to the no spin zone, lol. BootinUp Monday #127

I really think GAtomboy Monday #128

Not all Dems creeksneakers2 Monday #134

they own it weissmam Monday #139

I wish we could give them the middle finger YoshidaYui Monday #140

Yup Abstractartist Monday #145

The Dems may have blinked, but they had more concern for the old, young, ill, hungry. and non wealthy. Fla Dem Monday #146