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Deminpenn

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8. If Dems had gotten their demand on the ACA subsidies and nothing else

Reply to angrychair (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 10, 2025, 05:45 AM

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would you consider that a win?

What they got by holding out was SNAP and other benefits fully funded for all of FY26 and VA funded for all of FY26. The new CR contains language that requires back pay for federal civil servants and requires that all federal employees who were laid off or "RIF'd" be rehired as well as putting some restraints on Vought's unilateral actions wrt the federal government.

None of that would have happened had the shutdown continued to be focused only on the ACA.

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Herding Democrats is TOUGH because we are DIVERSE: Our greatest frustration, and our greatest strength [View all] pat_k Monday OP

Think we can still hammer them on ACA without kids hungry, paychecks held, permanent job losses, etc. Silent Type Monday #1

Absolutely! pat_k Monday #3

So we made people suffer angrychair Monday #5

That's certainly one way to look at it. pat_k Monday #6

No angrychair Monday #7

If Dems had gotten their demand on the ACA subsidies and nothing else Deminpenn Monday #8

Yes angrychair Monday #10

It's ok that you're a single issue voter Deminpenn Monday #11

You miss the point friend angrychair Monday #13

Some perspective from Lawrence O'Donnell pat_k Tuesday #21

Thanks for looking at the potentially positive aspects. yellow dahlia Monday #2

And keep pushing our electeds. Old dogs, new tricks and all that. pat_k Monday #4

Even better, now Johnson has to call the House back into session Deminpenn Monday #9

They have set a precedent Bettie Monday #12

There is a chance for the 8 to redeem themselves in the coming battle. pat_k Monday #20

The diversity within our party may be a point of pride and a moral strength, but politically speaking... QueerDuck Monday #14

All true. While diversity in the party is a strength pat_k Monday #17

I think this is BS. But he has a chance to prove it. Happy Hoosier Monday #15

As I said, time will tell. pat_k Monday #16

Nancy Pelosi was pretty damn good at keeping her coalition together. Nanjeanne Monday #18

Yes. But she utterly failed to stand strong for her convictions. pat_k Monday #19