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angrychair

(11,471 posts)

10. Yes

Reply to Deminpenn (Reply #8)

Mon Nov 10, 2025, 06:05 AM

Monday

If Dems had gotten their demand on the ACA subsidies and nothing else
would you consider that a win?

Yes. Because that was, very literally, the whole point of pushing the issue to a shutdown that cost those people pay and in some cases their jobs.

All that other stuff is the normal stuff people expect out of negotiations.

Plus the back pay and restoring the employment of RIFed employees is already required by law after a shutdown is over.

We put people through hell to get the exact same outcome if we had let the CR pass 40 days ago.

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Herding Democrats is TOUGH because we are DIVERSE: Our greatest frustration, and our greatest strength [View all] pat_k Monday OP

Think we can still hammer them on ACA without kids hungry, paychecks held, permanent job losses, etc. Silent Type Monday #1

Absolutely! pat_k Monday #3

So we made people suffer angrychair Monday #5

That's certainly one way to look at it. pat_k Monday #6

No angrychair Monday #7

If Dems had gotten their demand on the ACA subsidies and nothing else Deminpenn Monday #8

Yes angrychair Monday #10

It's ok that you're a single issue voter Deminpenn Monday #11

You miss the point friend angrychair Monday #13

Some perspective from Lawrence O'Donnell pat_k Tuesday #21

Thanks for looking at the potentially positive aspects. yellow dahlia Monday #2

And keep pushing our electeds. Old dogs, new tricks and all that. pat_k Monday #4

Even better, now Johnson has to call the House back into session Deminpenn Monday #9

They have set a precedent Bettie Monday #12

There is a chance for the 8 to redeem themselves in the coming battle. pat_k Monday #20

The diversity within our party may be a point of pride and a moral strength, but politically speaking... QueerDuck Monday #14

All true. While diversity in the party is a strength pat_k Monday #17

I think this is BS. But he has a chance to prove it. Happy Hoosier Monday #15

As I said, time will tell. pat_k Monday #16

Nancy Pelosi was pretty damn good at keeping her coalition together. Nanjeanne Monday #18

Yes. But she utterly failed to stand strong for her convictions. pat_k Monday #19