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Happy Hoosier

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36. Sure. Great.

Mon Nov 10, 2025, 08:09 AM

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Why even bother with the shutdown if we were just going to cave anyway?

We could have saved people a lot of angst and hardship.

Let's face it: We collapsed. In the face of a broad, electoral statement of support, we decided to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Yes, I'm glad people are getting food. Great. Especially before the holidays. But people WILL lose healthcare over this and that means people will DIE because of this. And worse, the Republicans now know they can win by imposing pain. They know they just need to keep inflicting MORE pain until we cry Uncle. And we'll get a short reprieve until they do it again. Only THIS time, the public won't believe us when we say we'll fight.

And I know most Democrats held strong. That won;t be the message the voting public take away from this.

This was our chance. We needed to stand firm HERE. We failed.

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It's true that sometimes you reach the point of diminishing returns [View all] maxrandb Sunday OP

90 million who had something better to do on election day n/t Cheezoholic Sunday #1

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There was an unexplained shift in there leftstreet Sunday #4

Democrats put a huge spotlight on the issue. Voters will know who to blame when they can no longer afford coverage. tritsofme Sunday #5

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I don't necessarily disagree with you. Democratic leaders were forced into a shutdown that never truly made much sense tritsofme Sunday #10

It made some sense, I doubt the election a week ago would have turned out quite as well without it Amishman Monday #29

"Democrats shut down the government"? Nice try, Mr. Joined Today 19-poster. hatrack Sunday #18

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Not their first rodeo JoseBalow Monday #25

Maybe the Dems fought hard, but never anticipated maxrandb Monday #27

lol voters wont remember shit pimpbot Sunday #20

They are causing a real and tangible harm. tritsofme Sunday #22

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Cup o' Cope Ponietz Sunday #3

It's so predictable, though Gore1FL Sunday #6

It's not all or even most Democrats. Happy Hoosier Sunday #15

It feels like we were tricked though leftstreet Sunday #7

I am in a very comfy position also FHRRK Sunday #9

Well it is true as you say ... Nanjeanne Sunday #11

You seem to think Dems could win this fight maxrandb Monday #30

Oh well if Abagail Spanberger says it then of course Nanjeanne Monday #35

Wow. Yeah, people like me are just collateral damage? herding cats Sunday #12

Kicked and Recommended jfz9580m Sunday #13

Would you mind dying a bit more quietly? Happy Hoosier Sunday #16

I'm just beginning to realize my worth. herding cats Sunday #17

FWIW, the vast majority of Democrats opposed this. Happy Hoosier Sunday #19

No, you have every right to be angry. maxrandb Monday #32

So, what returns did we get? Happy Hoosier Sunday #14

We get to watch the blowback for voting for people to die? herding cats Sunday #21

What blowback? Their axing Roe V Wade didn't even make people wake up Amishman Monday #31

What we get is people not starving and losing their entire livelihood maxrandb Monday #33

Sure. Great. Happy Hoosier Monday #36

I'm not disheartened by the failure to protect the ACA, but by the strategic incompetence. RockRaven Monday #26

Stop orangecrush Monday #28

It WAS A REPUBLICAN SHUTDOWN and Emile Monday #34

That's true. Happy Hoosier Monday #37