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Wiz Imp

(8,230 posts)
57. Right. I still disagree with the decision of these 8 (actually 5 since 3 voted with Republicans all along)
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 10:36 AM
Nov 10

But at this point it became obvious that Republicans were perfectly fine with the government being shut down forever. They were never going to relent on the ACA subsidies. I think they actually take pleasure in hurting the most people they can. So, sooner or later, the Democrats were going to have to agree to a CR. The Democratic party will not let people suffer unnecessarily forever. I think they should have waited longer, but I can see why some were ready to end it now - they didn't want the air traffic to be a mess come Thanksgiving and even if courts ruled in their favor, SNAP benefits using the contingency fund would have lasted less than 2 months.

The public now knows that if your health insurance premium skyrockets, it is 100% the fault of Republicans, and they don't give a damn about you.

The other mistake many here make is thinking that ALL Democrats think (or should think) as fanatically about this stuff as they do. That's just not the case. People not getting their SNAP, people whose flights were getting cancelled, Federal workers not receiving a pay check - they already all know this was due to Republicans. Keeping things shut down indefinitely was not going to change things. All it would do is make them continue to suffer while still not seeing any benefits in the long run.

This only hurts Democrats if Democrats (like many here) use it to attack the party moving forward, instead of keeping the focus on the one and only party responsible for this mess - the Republicans.

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From your lips to the Flying Spaghetti Monsters ears n/t luv2fly Nov 10 #1
I think you mean... HarryM Nov 10 #13
Rahhhh- men!!! niyad Nov 10 #31
pasta be praised and let us say ra-men moonshinegnomie Nov 10 #46
I hope you are right. Irish_Dem Nov 10 #2
There are benefits for sure, just not the main goals we wanted bucolic_frolic Nov 10 #3
I agree. Remember Adelita Grijalva can be seated and that could result in the discharge petition LymphocyteLover Nov 10 #6
Johnson is not going to do it. Blue Full Moon Nov 10 #11
That election in December is completely irrelevant. Wiz Imp Nov 10 #28
and the SNAP shame is now a wholly owned subsidiary agingdem Nov 10 #26
Yes, this dustup really tagged Republicans as heartless creatures. What a shame. /nt bucolic_frolic Nov 10 #29
I am... we were winning precisely because of the fight we put up. NOW WHAT?! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 10 #4
thank you for this. barbtries Nov 10 #5
I hear ya Barb KS Toronado Nov 10 #39
There IS martial law if your a brown /Latino looking LuvLoogie Nov 10 #67
Tuesday's election results SocialDemocrat61 Nov 10 #7
Governors and mayors of large cities orangecrush Nov 10 #9
Spanberger said the shutdown end yesterday SocialDemocrat61 Nov 10 #22
Tuesday's election was one step forward. The Sunday night sell out is two steps back. Hotler Nov 10 #8
Tuesday was a giant leap. orangecrush Nov 10 #10
Known as the Democratic leaders waltz. republianmushroom Nov 10 #63
The SNAP starvation will end Easterncedar Nov 10 #12
And the long, slow painful death of people who cannot afford health insurance begins. Happy Hoosier Nov 10 #17
That was going to happen regardless Wiz Imp Nov 10 #34
Well certainly not if we just give in..... Happy Hoosier Nov 10 #40
We didn't just give in, we got the Republican's word . dem4decades Nov 10 #51
... orangecrush Nov 10 #59
Yup republianmushroom Nov 10 #64
I believe he will try to stop the funding permanently orangecrush Nov 10 #19
Agree. Joinfortmill Nov 10 #14
The truth is that those 8 "democrats" just embolden Trump. Blue Full Moon Nov 10 #15
Um, wrong. SNAP payments will happen now - as soon as the government funding passes. Wiz Imp Nov 10 #37
it all came down to SNAP!! agingdem Nov 10 #52
Right. I still disagree with the decision of these 8 (actually 5 since 3 voted with Republicans all along) Wiz Imp Nov 10 #57
Correct... agingdem Nov 10 #60
I am. The people put their faith in us... Happy Hoosier Nov 10 #16
They exposed themselves orangecrush Nov 10 #18
I have no faith it will happen. Happy Hoosier Nov 10 #20
Is there any chance the ACA subsidies extension passes? Johnny2X2X Nov 10 #21
There is no way moreland01 Nov 10 #35
I am absolutely sick this morning reading this. pinkstarburst Nov 10 #23
We showed up in droves on Tuesday orangecrush Nov 10 #24
Schumers constituents, big money. CentralMass Nov 10 #30
Then why arent they yelling at republicans to cave? Volaris Nov 10 #50
If House Republicans pass the Senate bill, they have caved. lapucelle Nov 10 #53
Word orangecrush Nov 10 #61
Thank you BlueWaveNeverEnd Nov 10 #25
Most welcome orangecrush Nov 10 #27
Couple more No Kings Protests and we'll be united Emile Nov 10 #32
And please don't Bogart it. republianmushroom Nov 10 #65
May it be so! niyad Nov 10 #33
No one should be scratching their heads johnnyfins Nov 10 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Nov 10 #48
An Interesting Take... MayReasonRule Nov 10 #38
THIS orangecrush Nov 10 #58
It's What Computes For Myself As Well... I Don't Like It At All MayReasonRule Nov 10 #62
I am in despair because the ACA has been ruined and will not function for the poor anymore. lark Nov 10 #41
ACA was flawed from the beginning dwayneb Nov 10 #42
Glad to see so many positive comments. Mme. Defarge Nov 10 #43
Bullshit ‼️ flying-skeleton Nov 10 #44
I don't think so. BannonsLiver Nov 10 #45
Yeah, but what good was Tuesday anyway? TheBadWolf Nov 10 #47
It gave a lot more political clout orangecrush Nov 10 #56
Very much disagree berksdem Nov 10 #49
The blue wave was pissed on by some turncoat dems, but soggy is better than nothing, I guess. nt yaesu Nov 10 #54
They definitely pissed on our cornflakes. orangecrush Nov 10 #55
One needs a lot of glitter for this turd of events. Duncan Grant Nov 10 #66
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