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In reply to the discussion: OK, I'm gonna go out on a limb here.... [View all]CoopersDad
(3,261 posts)12. Thanks. The tide was turning, we couldn't permit SNAP, etc., to go unfunded.
The timing was right to take the hit because with election night fading in memories, hard realities were/are coming down that our corrupt media would increasing blame on our side.
It had to be done, I don't know where to go next but allowing the government to remain closed and people to go hungry was going to be worse than giving in.
It's not over, we need to shame them. This is what sort of what happened:

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Isn't there always when you get down to it, but we rarely have the inside track.Thanks for the perspective.
Amaryllis
Monday
#62
Those eight Senators were chosen for a reason, and it's nothing to do with brain damage
FakeNoose
Monday
#23
From a long range strategic perspective, for reasons too numerous to go into here, I don't think it was all that bad.
Fil1957
Monday
#10
I was awake till 4:30, got a few hours' sleep. I would like to think yesterday's cave was possibly strategic in some
highplainsdem
Monday
#17
Are you forgetting that Rs will have to face an actual vote in December to extend or not the ACA?
Sogo
Monday
#19
We were told that for the documents case. We were told that for the Mueller decision. We were told that
Scrivener7
Monday
#28
In my view, the "capitulation" boils down to this: was there ANY CHANCE Republicans would restore the ACA subsidies?
Martin Eden
Monday
#32
IMHO the repukes need to see how close they are to abject failure yet again
dickthegrouch
Monday
#53
So then, you think there was a reasonable chance all 3 things would happen to restore ACA subsidies?
Martin Eden
Monday
#56
Newsom also used the word PATHETIC. Olbermann called the sell out Senators Quislings.
flashman13
Monday
#49
I can think of many caring and principled reasons to vote to end the shutdown.
summer_in_TX
Tuesday
#65