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52. No we would have lost the ACA sooner

Mon Nov 10, 2025, 06:24 PM

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If we didn’t. have the subsidies.Millions will die and the ACA will fail now. Health care will be gone forever. But Congress will keep their health care of course.

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Statement from Tim Kaine on his vote last night. [View all] Sogo Monday OP

A fool jonstl08 Monday #1

how was the shutdown going to change that? edisdead Monday #61

Kaine also had the jacobs to call it (today on MSNBC) no big deal, a minor event. THAT is true arrogance on parade. Celerity Monday #62

And he was picked to be VP in 2016!! InAbLuEsTaTe Monday #104

Jacobs, harpy. You are on it. cachukis Monday #106

But a well paid one I'm sure. yourout Monday #102

I guess Tim thinks that Trump won't layoff more workers and will allow a fix for the ACA. dem4decades Monday #2

"the duration of this funding bill." --- Jan 30, 2026, I believe. Raven123 Monday #3

Trump doesn't mind newdeal2 Monday #5

SNAP and WIC are through Sept 30th. IbogaProject Monday #72

For the CR portion of this bill, yes InstantGratification Monday #108

The deal fully funds SNAP and the VA for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2026. lapucelle Tuesday #124

You are now partially responsible for Americans' health cost increases. Squaredeal Monday #4

Talk about twisted logic. Those premiums were going to increase even if the shutdown Wiz Imp Monday #65

Thank you! Put the blame where it should go -- on the Rethuglicans who want us sick, stupid, and starving. OMGWTF Monday #88

So why wait 40 days? Johnny2X2X Tuesday #122

To pass the two bills that fully fund SNAP and the VA until September 30, 2026. lapucelle Tuesday #127

I appreciate his transparency TheProle Monday #6

I appreciate nothing. If he isn't willing to stand up Demsrule86 Monday #19

You're certainly entitled to your disagreement. TheProle Monday #20

I will work to primary them. I always vote Democratic. Demsrule86 Monday #40

Understood and respected. TheProle Monday #54

So do I, albeit for different reasons. BannonsLiver Monday #36

TY Sogo.. Cha Monday #7

FU, Tim pinkstarburst Monday #8

So naive. NewHendoLib Monday #9

Thank you for sharing this. He's a gem. Practical and realistic. But he's being attacked by the "purists" ... QueerDuck Monday #10

We lost the ACA forever. There is nothing he could Demsrule86 Monday #23

"I've lost my harmonica, Albert." Donkees Monday #11

We caved because we love the country. Frasier Balzov Monday #12

"robust full-year funding for SNAP, WIC, " Prairie Gates Monday #13

actually no it wasn't dsc Monday #21

Snap will be funded at pre pandemic levels, so after adding for inflation questionseverything Monday #38

Cold comfort, but the 20 billion-ish annual SNAP cuts in the MAGA Murder Budget "blueprint" pat_k Monday #63

Is that one of Republicans' "poison pills" that implements in 2027 so that it's AFTER the mid-terms... Beartracks Monday #77

That it is. Until the cuts in the Murder Budget are implemented in an appropriations bill, they have no real effect. pat_k Monday #95

Which by the way won't happen. Demsrule86 Monday #44

I realized during Covid moreland01 Monday #64

First, we're not friends. Baitball Blogger Monday #14

OK Cirsium Monday #15

Dear Tim Demsrule86 Monday #16

You might want to check if any of the Craven Eight are on the 2026 ballot misanthrope Monday #49

Shaheen and Durbin are retiring -- likely to some lobbying job rpannier Monday #76

None of the Eight will run for re-election anytime soon. lapfog_1 Monday #58

Thank you for living in the reality based community, Senator Kaine! tritsofme Monday #17

...and taking one for the team. yowzayowzayowza Monday #51

"We won't win it if we turn to in-fighting." Prairie Gates Monday #18

So how do we win? We sure as hell lost last night. Demsrule86 Monday #25

And mark my words Medicare is next. Demsrule86 Monday #26

We'll trade Medicare for 17 more weeks of SNAP Prairie Gates Monday #28

Exactly re'd !!! Demsrule86 Monday #46

When do they actually come for the SNAP itself? misanthrope Monday #53

And now because of your short sightedness thousands upon thousands will have no healthcare. Autumn Monday #22

Perfect Autumn rec'd. I feel exactly the same Demsrule86 Monday #32

Democrats created these enhanced COVID subsidies, and then put a 1 year sunset on them, which is long past AZJonnie Monday #41

Whoosh !!! right over your head They fucking blew it and they should have made fucking sure some other Autumn Monday #48

Who said "it was their plan all along"? Do you mean, like, since Day 1? AZJonnie Monday #60

I misread nothing. Jeanne Shaheen let that cat out of the bag. Autumn Monday #92

What "entire time"? From "the beginning" ... of what? AZJonnie Monday #94

A fifth grader can understand what I posted. If you need help with it call her and ask her. Autumn Monday #96

No I understand exactly what you are CLAIMING AZJonnie Monday #98

No we would have lost the ACA sooner Demsrule86 Monday #52

You found the right post, I saw your other one ;) AZJonnie Monday #66

Well said!!! berksdem Monday #103

The part that makes it even worse is how they timed it Bettie Tuesday #123

Good. And I think it'd be smart if all elected Democrats were saying this, in unison, now that the decision is made AZJonnie Monday #24

Destroying health care is worse. And folks Demsrule86 Monday #34

He may or may not realized that he and the crazy eight just stabbed every Democratic voter in the back. nt yaesu Monday #39

Please see my post #41 above AZJonnie Monday #47

I am on my phone in hospital so no Numbers. Demsrule86 Monday #55

The vast, vast majority of House and Senate Dems think he fucked up, now that's unity!!! nt yaesu Monday #35

That is THE OPPOSITE of unity, my friend AZJonnie Monday #45

The Democratic party isn't in disarray. They fucked the very voters who have supported them. Autumn Monday #50

They did exactly. Rec Demsrule86 Monday #56

I have three wonderful great grandchildren. Two have severe asthma. Both parents work and get Autumn Monday #59

"So we negotiated for what we could get": bupkis. 0rganism Monday #27

He caved for a path, that's path etic. Emile Monday #29

...last night's vote gave us a path for an ACA fix to stop a devastating rise in premiums... Xavier Breath Monday #30

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Naivety? You're an optimist! Prairie Gates Monday #42

he is not naive Skittles Monday #109

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Monday #110

he is still nowhere near as vile and disgusting as repukes are Skittles Monday #112

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the eight are getting the flak now instead of repukes Skittles Monday #115

Last night will forever be known as the Kaine mutiny. nt yaesu Monday #31

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Monday #33

They lied to you Tim. When are you going to believe they lie with every breath? Clouds Passing Monday #43

"Finally, last night's vote gave us a path for an ACA fix to stop a devastating rise in premiums" lapfog_1 Monday #57

A lot of words to say, Your ACA premiums are going to skyrocket. Hassler Monday #67

I won't begrudge anyone BaronChocula Monday #68

Did he have any meetings or town halls with people in his state Tribetime Monday #69

A lot of people will be uninsured. Path-etic Emile Monday #70

remember this is because of REPUBLICANS Skittles Monday #114

A total wimp now trying to justify his cowardliness. walkingman Monday #71

Just another lesson learned for the purity Democrats who couldn't vote for Harris. NoMoreRepugs Monday #73

Not A Real Deal 2na fisherman Monday #74

This message was self-deleted by its author CaptainTruth Monday #75

You and a small handful rpannier Monday #79

Why not Fetterman? Emile Monday #93

I'm a Virginia constituent and federal employee KLK1972 Monday #78

may we assume you didn't vote -R- Skittles Monday #81

Definitely not!! KLK1972 Monday #83

you have a home here Skittles Monday #99

I am so sorry for what you, your family and neighbors are going through, KLK. sheshe2 Monday #111

Welcome to DU. I'm so very sorry for what you & your family are going through. I respect Sen. Kaine... Hekate Tuesday #116

No one is happy with this, and it is easy for those who are NOT dependent on foodstamps, or on a check to lostincalifornia Tuesday #120

Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Tuesday #125

Welcome to DU. lapucelle Tuesday #129

Thank you for sharing your story and welcome to DU mcar Tuesday #131

Aloha KLK1972... Welcome to DU💙 Cha Tuesday #132

Honestly, I was quite surprised when Hillary picked him. hamsterjill Monday #80

He was one of the top three contenders for Obama's VP pick, too. "Corporate shill"? betsuni Tuesday #117

So? Obama didn't wind up picking him, did he? hamsterjill Tuesday #118

Okay underpants Monday #82

Congress: January 30, 2026. Marcuse Monday #84

Not buying it but I appreciate him trying to explain his vote. AllyCat Monday #85

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The "path for an ACA fix" Diraven Monday #87

All I read was blah, blah, blah, I'm a weak senator, blah, blah, blah n/t aggiesal Monday #89

A lesson from the Peanuts... djacq Monday #90

Reminds me of this guy: Dave Bowman Monday #91

Coward maspaha Monday #97

Cool story bro 🙄 Javaman Monday #100

Go jump in a lake. choie Monday #101

This part is gaslighting: "I believe we can win this critical ACA battle if we fight for it together." LonePirate Monday #105

He is what is going to happen. kacekwl Monday #107

Tim---May I Call You Tim?---ALL Of What You Wrote Was Foreseen. And.... ColoringFool Tuesday #119

We're supposed to support Dems here Johnny2X2X Tuesday #121

F HIM F THEM VOTE EM OUT!! sunflowerseed Tuesday #126

Dear senator: "It is the job of thinking people not to be on the side of the executioners." Albert Camus Ping Tung Tuesday #128

Exactly Emile Tuesday #130

The facts won't convince people who have their minds made up because they are focusing ONLY on the ACA. valleyrogue Tuesday #133

These comparisons invoking feeding children vs the ACA health care is a fallacy... Hugin Tuesday #134