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In reply to the discussion: I need help from folks here who know the Bible: what did Jesus say about abortion? [View all]Wiz Imp
(8,107 posts)29. Jesus never said a single word about abortion, nor did he say a single word about homosexuality
They base those views on various passages in the Old Testament (pre-Jesus) while conveniently ignoring many other passages because those other passages don't tell them they should "hate" other people.
In reality, The Bible only mentions abortion once, and its a recipe. Numbers 5:11-31 is the only time abortion is mentioned and its a recipe on how to perform one.
11 Then the Lord said to Moses, 12 Speak to the Israelites and say to them: If a mans wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him 13 so that another man has sexual relations with her, and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act), 14 and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impureor if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure 15 then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephah[a] of barley flour on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy, a reminder-offering to draw attention to wrongdoing.
16 The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this cursemay the Lord cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.
16 The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this cursemay the Lord cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.
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I need help from folks here who know the Bible: what did Jesus say about abortion? [View all]
CTyankee
Monday
OP
They base their objection on the "you shall not murder" commandment. While the 10 Commandments are from the
WhiskeyGrinder
Monday
#1
Sure, I'm not saying they're consistent or correct. "Righteous" killings are somehow different. But if you ask the
WhiskeyGrinder
Monday
#13
No. That's considered a righteous killing, not murder (which is an unrighteous killing).
WhiskeyGrinder
Monday
#30
That was referring to a claim to being one of the Top Prophets and leader, from what I understand.
haele
Monday
#22
The trial by "bitter waters" is the only reference I can find to abortion in the bible.
TomSlick
Monday
#38
As a Lutheran, and from the bible: the same thing he said about drag queens - not a darn thing.
marble falls
Monday
#12
The only Lutheran I know is staunchly against abortion. He's active in his church and that's why I asked...
CTyankee
Monday
#14
Missouri Synod? We're the Shia of the Lutheran World. I'm progressive Missouri Synod, I have a sense of humor. ...
marble falls
Monday
#16
You Evangelicans can play cards, dance, drink wine and beer in the basement. Not we MSLs. I've gone to ...
marble falls
Monday
#21
The schools broke me. We began memorizing the entire Luther's Small Catechism in fourth grade. ...
marble falls
Tuesday
#44
It got better, I moved to Akron and joined an Evangelical congregation. But I still feel myself MSL, and an Ohioan ...
marble falls
Tuesday
#59
Jesus never said a single word about abortion, nor did he say a single word about homosexuality
Wiz Imp
Monday
#29
If he expanded the Temple, then your answer might be found in the works of King Herod the Great.
RedWhiteBlueIsRacist
Monday
#35
As someone who had read the Bible extensively, Dead Sea Scrolls, Pseudepigrapha, etc.
Xolodno
Monday
#40
In colonial America (which was most definitely Christian), I believe abortion was considered OK up until the quickening
Midwestern Democrat
Monday
#42