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Wiz Imp

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29. Jesus never said a single word about abortion, nor did he say a single word about homosexuality
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 07:35 PM
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They base those views on various passages in the Old Testament (pre-Jesus) while conveniently ignoring many other passages because those other passages don't tell them they should "hate" other people.

In reality, The Bible only mentions abortion once, and it’s a recipe. Numbers 5:11-31 is the only time abortion is mentioned and it’s a recipe on how to perform one.

11 Then the Lord said to Moses, 12 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If a man’s wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him 13 so that another man has sexual relations with her, and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act), 14 and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure— 15 then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephah[a] of barley flour on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy, a reminder-offering to draw attention to wrongdoing.

16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”


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They base their objection on the "you shall not murder" commandment. While the 10 Commandments are from the WhiskeyGrinder Monday #1
But most religions support killing in the name of their deities malaise Monday #11
Sure, I'm not saying they're consistent or correct. "Righteous" killings are somehow different. But if you ask the WhiskeyGrinder Monday #13
LOL malaise Monday #20
So presumably they are all utterly opposed PoindexterOglethorpe Monday #26
No. That's considered a righteous killing, not murder (which is an unrighteous killing). WhiskeyGrinder Monday #30
Righteous, not righteous, it's still murder. PoindexterOglethorpe Tuesday #47
Their answer would be that that is your standard, not God's. WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #48
Clearly, then, God is a hypocrite. PoindexterOglethorpe Tuesday #49
Again, by your standard. WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #50
Some Catholics oppose both capital punishment and abortion DBoon Tuesday #51
Jesus came to live a perfect life which fulfilled the law questionseverything Tuesday #56
Jesus never mentioned abortion. n/t Coventina Monday #2
Nothing tintinvotes Monday #3
Jeremiah 1:5 dsc Monday #4
Not a ringing condemnation but if that's all they got.... CTyankee Monday #5
That was referring to a claim to being one of the Top Prophets and leader, from what I understand. haele Monday #22
Nothing. And they base their positions on their own opinions/desires, and then RockRaven Monday #6
The Bible never mentions conception as the beginning of life. multigraincracker Monday #7
Yes and that's the Jewish perspective... milestogo Monday #9
Nothing. milestogo Monday #8
Numbers 5 - 11 thru 31 Midnight Writer Monday #15
The trial by "bitter waters" is the only reference I can find to abortion in the bible. TomSlick Monday #38
Murder Prohibition Covers It OC375 Monday #10
Now it does. But it's all about definitions. haele Monday #23
As a Lutheran, and from the bible: the same thing he said about drag queens - not a darn thing. marble falls Monday #12
The only Lutheran I know is staunchly against abortion. He's active in his church and that's why I asked... CTyankee Monday #14
Missouri Synod? We're the Shia of the Lutheran World. I'm progressive Missouri Synod, I have a sense of humor. ... marble falls Monday #16
WELS is the Shia of the Lutheran world! Krazy_Kat Monday #18
You Evangelicans can play cards, dance, drink wine and beer in the basement. Not we MSLs. I've gone to ... marble falls Monday #21
I grew up in an MSL church. Happy Hoosier Tuesday #43
The schools broke me. We began memorizing the entire Luther's Small Catechism in fourth grade. ... marble falls Tuesday #44
Wow. Happy Hoosier Tuesday #45
It got better, I moved to Akron and joined an Evangelical congregation. But I still feel myself MSL, and an Ohioan ... marble falls Tuesday #59
From the Southern Baptist Convention in 1971: Girard442 Monday #17
he said it's cool through the second trimester rollin74 Monday #19
Nada. And abortion was acceptable up to birth. Hassler Monday #24
He didn't say anything MurrayDelph Monday #25
Jesus said as much about abortion sarisataka Monday #27
Nothing. Nothing about homosexuality either. nt mcar Monday #28
Jesus never said a single word about abortion, nor did he say a single word about homosexuality Wiz Imp Monday #29
Nada... Wounded Bear Monday #31
To the best of my knowledge, Jesus was silent on the issue of abortion. rsdsharp Monday #32
The justification for not having sex with no possibility of procreation... Jacson6 Monday #33
John Fugelsang has this covered in his new book, GoCubsGo Monday #34
If he expanded the Temple, then your answer might be found in the works of King Herod the Great. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Monday #35
Life in the womb is the potential for human life. OAITW r.2.0 Monday #36
Jesus was a Jew. Chemical Bill Monday #37
The same as what he said about slavery Kaleva Monday #39
As someone who had read the Bible extensively, Dead Sea Scrolls, Pseudepigrapha, etc. Xolodno Monday #40
Jesus himself never KentuckyWoman Monday #41
In colonial America (which was most definitely Christian), I believe abortion was considered OK up until the quickening Midwestern Democrat Monday #42
Nothing. Jesus Said Nothing about That. MineralMan Tuesday #46
Not a thing Rebl2 Tuesday #52
"Do not judge or you too will be judged" (Matthew 7:1) C_U_L8R Tuesday #53
There are a lot of ways... Mike Nelson Tuesday #54
Current Affairs Magazine had a piece on Christianity recently jfz9580m Tuesday #55
Not one single word. 11 Bravo Tuesday #57
It isn't mine so I'm not paying for it! - Jesus Xavier Breath Tuesday #58
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