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pat_k

(12,461 posts)
20. There is a chance for the 8 to redeem themselves in the coming battle.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 09:05 PM
Monday

Until the cuts and harmful changes in the Murder Budget are implemented in an appropriations bill, they have no real effect.

The MAGA Murder Budget remains one of the most despised pieces of legislation in my memory -- and perhaps ever.

Democrats have a chance to fight like hell -- and to stick it out this time -- again in January.

Job One Right Now is pushing the Democrats in the House and Senate -- not just our own electeds, but the leadership too -- to define a set of demands to mitigate the most hated and harmful of the cuts and destructive changes to the rules in the MAGA Murder Budget "blueprint" that are scheduled for 2026. Along with declarations to fight as hard in 2027 against the cuts in Medicaid and SNAP.

Trumpublicans must be forced to defend the indefensible. And if they refuse to change course and step back on the worst things in that bill scheduled for 2026, we must bring all the pressure we can muster to convince the Senate Democratic caucus to shut down the government again.

Then it will be up to us to keep the pressure on to make sure the February shutdown ends in ONLY
one of two ways:

- Trumpublicans meet our demands.

- Trumpublicans invoke the nuclear option. If they won't change course and deviate from the "blueprint" let them take 100% responsibility for it by passing it with only their own votes.

In this coming fight, it is time for DEMOCRATS to FINALLY demonstrate the strength it takes to draw firm lines in the sand (STFU about negotiating): The demands are met, or the Republicans can get rid of the filibuster.

We need them to declare their refusal to be accomplices in these evils (the list of terrible MAGA Murder Budget rules changes and cuts -- and the evils we KNOW the felon will commit if not stopped by Congress).

The message in this second shutdown: We are not obstructing. They can move forward right now. We just refuse to be accomplices in these evils. Period. End of story.

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Think we can still hammer them on ACA without kids hungry, paychecks held, permanent job losses, etc. Silent Type Monday #1
Absolutely! pat_k Monday #3
So we made people suffer angrychair Monday #5
That's certainly one way to look at it. pat_k Monday #6
No angrychair Monday #7
If Dems had gotten their demand on the ACA subsidies and nothing else Deminpenn Monday #8
Yes angrychair Monday #10
It's ok that you're a single issue voter Deminpenn Monday #11
You miss the point friend angrychair Monday #13
Some perspective from Lawrence O'Donnell pat_k Tuesday #21
Thanks for looking at the potentially positive aspects. yellow dahlia Monday #2
And keep pushing our electeds. Old dogs, new tricks and all that. pat_k Monday #4
Even better, now Johnson has to call the House back into session Deminpenn Monday #9
They have set a precedent Bettie Monday #12
There is a chance for the 8 to redeem themselves in the coming battle. pat_k Monday #20
The diversity within our party may be a point of pride and a moral strength, but politically speaking... QueerDuck Monday #14
All true. While diversity in the party is a strength pat_k Monday #17
I think this is BS. But he has a chance to prove it. Happy Hoosier Monday #15
As I said, time will tell. pat_k Monday #16
Nancy Pelosi was pretty damn good at keeping her coalition together. Nanjeanne Monday #18
Yes. But she utterly failed to stand strong for her convictions. pat_k Monday #19
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