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In reply to the discussion: Republicans and their bull don't shake me as much as the dragging of our party and leaders in Dem forums [View all]summer_in_TX
(3,926 posts)48. I agree, Bigtree.
I'm going to quote my sister here. Four of the five siblings have been discussing it on our Signal channel.
"Did yall see the 60 minutes thang yesterday about the farmers (stress, tariffs, high rates of suicide)? They have been hurting for months and Trump does NOT care. And they are largely considered to be R voters. He absolutely does not care.
So why would we think that he was going to care about the prospect of full airplanes colliding? Why would we think he was gonna care about people not getting their paychecks or benefits?
Why would we think hes ever gonna care about the increase in Air Traffic Controllers early retiring??
Hes not. And you cannot negotiate with someone who does not even give a shizzle about his own people.
Meanwhile, Dems did NOT cave. They made sure that fired federal workers (the ones that Trump fired during the shutdown) would be reinstated. And that all those furloughed workers would get back pay. That makes a huge difference not only to their families, but to the economy of their communities too."
So why would we think that he was going to care about the prospect of full airplanes colliding? Why would we think he was gonna care about people not getting their paychecks or benefits?
Why would we think hes ever gonna care about the increase in Air Traffic Controllers early retiring??
Hes not. And you cannot negotiate with someone who does not even give a shizzle about his own people.
Meanwhile, Dems did NOT cave. They made sure that fired federal workers (the ones that Trump fired during the shutdown) would be reinstated. And that all those furloughed workers would get back pay. That makes a huge difference not only to their families, but to the economy of their communities too."
Our niece is an air traffic controller in the northern part of Colorado. She and her husband have a two-year-old and a four-year-old. Air traffic controllers have been under tremendous stress, understaffed so working overtime. She took a day off week before last to see if she could get a bank loan to tide them over and figure out which bills they could delay paying on. She's working too many hours to be able to work a second job. It's cold there but can they afford to heat there house, feed the whole family, pay for medicine they need? What about seniors and disabled people?
I wanted to send them a gift card but have been buying groceries for a disabled friend and had to be careful. Couldn't give a little extra to the local food pantry either.
Yes, community was stepping up for one another but it wasn't sustainable and people fall through the cracks. The laid off workers will get their jobs back anh back pay. But will those of us who pitched in? We are doing the right thing but it's a cost we shouldn't have to bear and many of us can't bear for long.
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Republicans and their bull don't shake me as much as the dragging of our party and leaders in Dem forums [View all]
bigtree
Monday
OP
Have you thought about running for office? You said you are willing to fight and we need some fighters in DC.
LonePirate
Monday
#1
What gets me is people looking at results like these and saying "well, they did their best,
RockRaven
Monday
#4
You're right. And there's a reason why Republicans and Russians put so much effort into dividing the left.
W_HAMILTON
Monday
#10
Yeah, no. It's a lot easier to divide Democrats when the person dividing is only a Democrat when it benefits them.
W_HAMILTON
Monday
#50
I agree except that I am thinking the cavers represent a lot less than a third of the party.
Scrivener7
Tuesday
#61
You will find me mostly criticizing those that contribute to the in-fighting.
W_HAMILTON
Tuesday
#79
I heard Carville brow beating Democrats who are upset about this while listening to MSNBC on a walk this afternoon.
CentralMass
Monday
#14
Making it all about how devastating losing ACA- subsidies would be-only to cave--was very poor messaging
crimycarny
Tuesday
#78
Well, as long as the party makes stupid ass choices that make zero sense you better get used to it. nt
yaesu
Monday
#30
Lawrence just discussed problems for LEADERSHIP of Dem party, and we all should read/
elleng
Monday
#33
Lawrence O'Donnell has proven you right tonight, and all the anti-Schumers wrong.
ancianita
Monday
#43
Yep, it happens when folks upload a full hour. But it's worth the info for the 12 hrs that 177 people got to view it.
ancianita
Tuesday
#88
Senator Chris Murphy and 36 other Democratic Senators disagree. And they're in a better position to know.
Scrivener7
Tuesday
#63
" Republicans and their bull don't shake me as much as the dragging of our party and leaders in Dem forums"
BannonsLiver
Tuesday
#72
Moronic things like "don't listen to Lawrence O'Donnell, he's rich"; Tim Kaine's a "corporate shill," don't listen.
betsuni
Tuesday
#92