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summer_in_TX

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11. I understand the fury but disagree.

Mon Nov 10, 2025, 11:56 PM

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Did y’all see the 60 minutes thang yesterday about the farmers (stress, tariffs, high rates of suicide)? They have been hurting for months and Trump does NOT care. And they are largely considered to be R voters. He absolutely does not care.

So why would we think that he was going to care about the prospect of full airplanes colliding? Why would we think he was gonna care about people not getting their paychecks or benefits?

Why would we think he’s ever gonna care about the increase in Air Traffic Controllers early retiring??

He’s not. And you cannot negotiate with someone who does not even give a shizzle about his own people.

Meanwhile, Dems did NOT “cave”. They made sure that “fired” federal workers (the ones that Trump fired during the shutdown) would be reinstated. And that all those furloughed workers would get back pay. That makes a huge difference not only to their families, but to the economy of their communities too.

That's one of my sister's analysis in our sibling Signal thread.

We think of the disabled and elderly who can't afford food, to heat their homes, or to buy their medicines. Plus people like our air traffic controller niece with two kids four and under, working many hours, borrowing money to survive on, trying to decide which bills they can delay paying.

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I'm furious [View all] iemanja Monday OP

Who cares what people think. Groundhawg Monday #1

Because they vote iemanja Monday #4

They better care what We The People think, MarineCombatEngineer Monday #5

Amazing, isn't it, that the most obvious things under the sun require any explanation? jcmaine72 Tuesday #17

Do any of the people who justify yesterday's action by saying "it was never possible" RockRaven Monday #2

Exactly iemanja Monday #3

Does that mean you think it was possible? Martin Eden Tuesday #14

In the coming battle. pat_k Monday #6

Think I agree. As I understand it, but definitely could be wrong, sounds like Dems get to craft the ACA subsidy bill Silent Type Monday #7

On the December bill, I think we keep it simple and focus on extending the subsidies, but in communications... pat_k Monday #9

Sounds good to me. I guess we've given up on PAYGO Waiver for automatic Medicare cuts and Medicaid cuts. Silent Type Tuesday #12

" Trump is emboldened. He knows he can shit all over us," FoxNewsSucks Monday #8

39 stood up for us KentuckyWoman Monday #10

Yes, we should appreciate that most democratic senators held firm fujiyamasan Tuesday #16

I understand the fury but disagree. summer_in_TX Monday #11

There are definitely people getting hurt that this will help. Wish we'd handled it better from start. Silent Type Tuesday #13

This is the only upside I can see to it jfz9580m Tuesday #15