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Ilikepurple

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20. Maybe I'm misinformed, but I think that all would have happened without the shutdown.
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 12:11 AM
Tuesday

Why have it in the first place? The main positives I see with the shutdown + deal is that it drew attention to both SNAP and the ACA enhancement. Maybe more people understand what they are and why they are improtant now. There is also the guaranty of a vote on extending the expansion of enhancements. These aren’t nothing. It’s worth something to get a public vote on support for ACA enhancement extensions. Will precarious Rs just abstain from voting? I don’t know. There’s little chance the vote will result in expansion, but might be useful in getting back a couple senate seats. Time will tell if it was worth the monetary and psychological pain the shutdown has caused. I, for one, am not well enough informed or perhaps even unbiased enough to know how to best slow down the Trump machine and protect the US people’s needs, but I also do not have hubristic inclinations to think I have a definitive answer as to whether the shut down and deal was an accomplishment to be congratulated. They never seemed to have much leverage, but it seemed that they had more in the last week than before, so the timing seems weird. Lawrence is both an analyst and entertainer. He has had less than a day to pick a position and create a narrative. It had to be spun one way or another. This has got to be a relief for SNAP recipients and federal workers, but also extremely anxiety inducing for those who don’t know how they are going to afford health insurance going forward. Maybe it’s my lack of vision, but I’m not as confident as others are to give my definitive judgment.

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Listen to him. Republicans caved not Democrats. Srkdqltr Monday #1
HE'S RIGHT. ancianita Monday #18
They killed the ACA. Demsrule86 Tuesday #50
He's giving an alternative perspective on the "deal" - Republicans "caved" spooky3 Monday #2
Bullshit. choie Monday #4
Have a nice day! nt spooky3 Monday #5
Post removed Post removed Monday #9
He also said that John Glenn was the 1st person to orbit the earth Layzeebeaver Tuesday #38
John Glenn was not the first person to orbit the earth! Layzeebeaver Tuesday #39
We lost healthcare... likely forever. Demsrule86 Tuesday #51
They did not get SNAP increased. choie Monday #3
Got current payment levels restored. Whether that matters enough depends one's perspective. Silent Type Monday #10
increased BACK to what is already mandated by law, Jack Valentino Tuesday #29
It was fully restored and guaranteed through September of 2026. That's a big deal. SunSeeker Tuesday #35
SNAP was always going to be avialable through September 30, 2026. choie Tuesday #48
Wrong. SNAP ran out of money Nov. 1. SunSeeker Tuesday #53
That was due to the shutdown. choie Tuesday #55
In past shutdowns, SNAP was always paid out of emergency funds. Not this time. SunSeeker Tuesday #57
Love Lawrence, but he's full of shit tonight Jersey Devil Monday #6
Is that what happened? mr715 Monday #7
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Remember: Being a woman Bettie Monday #16
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This is why I don't watch garbage like MSNow or whatever the fuck it's called now fujiyamasan Monday #11
I used to like Lawrence, but he now takes the easy path to popularity - just tells the base what they want to hear. Midwestern Democrat Tuesday #40
Thanks for the rundown fujiyamasan Tuesday #41
Totally on point. 👍nt Raine Tuesday #43
Adding Ali Velshi, always try and catch his show. nt cliffside Tuesday #54
TY for LO'D, ellen. I'll have to catch it Cha Monday #12
CRITICAL, Cha. elleng Monday #15
Here you go: Rhiannon12866 Tuesday #21
lol... I just got your link and Cha Tuesday #25
There was only one with Lawrence O'Donnell tonight, just his monologue, MSNBC didn't upload any guests Rhiannon12866 Tuesday #28
Ah, I see now... jcmaine72 Monday #13
I'm playing tiddlywinks COL Mustard Tuesday #32
Tell it to the sick people who won't be able to afford healthcare. One DUer says this will Scrivener7 Monday #14
sweet! did they also accomplish the thing that was their goal they told us about for the last 40 days? Takket Monday #19
Maybe I'm misinformed, but I think that all would have happened without the shutdown. Ilikepurple Tuesday #20
Here's Lawrence O'Donnell, for those who missed it: Rhiannon12866 Tuesday #22
Oh but what about my unicorn!!!!1!11! (sarcasm) MorbidButterflyTat Tuesday #23
Healthcare is a unicorn now. Great. Scrivener7 Tuesday #45
LOL popsdenver Tuesday #24
well, we got a lot of promises, that's it though it is comforting that he's letting US know how good we have it yaesu Tuesday #26
It's excellent! betsuni Tuesday #27
So what is it? The Democrats accomplished great things or Ilikepurple Tuesday #31
Lawrence's show is excellent. He said the same thing I said, that a few Democrats doesn't mean the whole party. betsuni Tuesday #37
I think his show is decent, but I'm not sure what position they abandoned? Ilikepurple Tuesday #42
The one thing they wanted the most, they caved and let go. lees1975 Tuesday #30
It feels like an outright gaslighting campaign fujiyamasan Tuesday #47
I'm with Lawrence on this one padah513 Tuesday #33
I agree--and I'm still apoplectic about ACA subsidies not being extended crimycarny Tuesday #58
I watched it lapfog_1 Tuesday #34
He Mentioned Guarantees by the Republicans 2na fisherman Tuesday #36
This is exactly BeerBarrelPolka Tuesday #44
Therecare no guarantees. Demsrule86 Tuesday #52
Here is Lawrence's explanation LetMyPeopleVote Tuesday #46
Honestly, if there's some massive, hidden strategy in all of this hamsterjill Tuesday #49
We have seen tepid, semi-apologies and justifications mr715 Tuesday #56
Dems made it hurt less, uponit7771 Wednesday #59
Lawrence was great last night also LetMyPeopleVote Thursday #60
What Democrats say they won in the 43-day government shutdown LetMyPeopleVote Thursday #61
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