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patphil

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11. The belief that going to college is a bad idea is at the forefront of project 2025 policy.
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 11:30 AM
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Yes, AI and robotics will replace millions of jobs, and many of these will be jobs that college graduates now hold. But many more will be in semi-skilled and non-skilled areas.
This is why there is a push to deport millions of people. Room has to be made for people who are now in jobs that won't exist in 20 years. The nation has to be programed to have lower expectations as far as what the average person can achieve in the employment market.
Well educated college graduates aren't going to settle for less than what they expected their college degree would get them. And right now we have millions of college graduates with huge debts and jobs that pay a lot less than they expected to get. A college degree was oversold, and the correction toward lower expectations has been initiated.

We're beginning to see the federal government exhibit hostility toward colleges and universities that it expects will re-form higher education into something they control. Less people in college, and only the right kind of people.

So they're saying kids should learn a trade. Those are code words for lowering your expectations. We all know their aren't a lot of open jobs in that sector, so that idea isn't going to work, meaning the next generation of adults will have to shift down even lower to mill work, specialized jobs that require hands on, and manual labor such as farm work.
This is not going to be an easy transition; it will require a strong central government with the ability to force changes the people don't want. That's what is emerging in the republican party right now.

I don't think this will go over well.

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It makes sense SO FAR TheFarseer Tuesday #1
I still think inevitable lawsuits are going to slow the "self driving semi" train down. Callie1979 Tuesday #4
even liberal arts degrees eventually pay off DBoon Tuesday #2
Even more so in an AI World JCMach1 Tuesday #18
As they always have Iris Tuesday #21
I've been saying "learn a trade" my whole life. College is a scam Callie1979 Tuesday #3
I've had the opposite experience Johnny2X2X Tuesday #5
GO GREEN.... democratsruletheday Tuesday #30
I graduated from college with zero debt. hunter Tuesday #9
True enough about the non-career years of education biophile Tuesday #10
I've recommended that to many kids. Get most of your hrs at the smaller cheaper places Callie1979 Tuesday #22
Yes, good idea. biophile Tuesday #27
Why are you parroting RW billshit? Happy Hoosier Tuesday #47
Good for you; most dont have parents pay for their school. Trade school made me financially secure. Callie1979 7 hrs ago #55
a lot of jobs now that require a degree Skittles 6 hrs ago #57
"Go to college! Learn to code!" used to be our reprose to workers complaining about automation, outsourcing, and... Lancero Tuesday #6
If I were a junior engineer starting out Johnny2X2X Tuesday #7
Good luck getting a junior engineering Boo1 Tuesday #13
I'm a senior engineer in aerospace Johnny2X2X Tuesday #14
I agree Boo1 Tuesday #16
I disagree somewhat Johnny2X2X Tuesday #19
Are you an engineer? Happy Hoosier Tuesday #49
No Boo1 Yesterday #50
Using AI to code is going to create all sorts of jobs for people who can maintain that code... hunter Tuesday #15
Agree Johnny2X2X Tuesday #20
I just don't want to be run over by a driverless truck... hunter Tuesday #26
I cannot wait for the roads to be majority driverless vehicles. Johnny2X2X Tuesday #31
That sounds dystopian to me. hunter Tuesday #41
Do both. Trades and college. Don't make this a binary question. CoopersDad Tuesday #8
It never hurts to be multi-competent! biophile Tuesday #12
Exactly CD....as I said before, my kid LOVES democratsruletheday Tuesday #32
Yes, equal time should be given to technical school & college. Callie1979 7 hrs ago #56
The belief that going to college is a bad idea is at the forefront of project 2025 policy. patphil Tuesday #11
Well put Johnny2X2X Tuesday #17
College was simply not for me. Technical school was. And I retired at 53 Callie1979 Tuesday #23
Good for you Johnny2X2X Tuesday #37
This message was self-deleted by its author Stacey Grove Tuesday #24
It's not a bad idea, but not the right idea for everyone. flvegan Tuesday #25
Trade jobs are being taken by robots lame54 Tuesday #28
Glad you started this topic fujiyamasan Tuesday #29
Solid article on the subject.... democratsruletheday Tuesday #33
I support everyone going to at least a two-year college before chosing a career LogDog75 Tuesday #34
I learned a trade Jilly_in_VA Tuesday #35
BSNs aren't required to do rotations before graduating? Johnny2X2X Tuesday #39
They do, but it varies Jilly_in_VA 14 hrs ago #54
The point of education is that it teaches you how to learn and how to think. milestogo Tuesday #36
LOL Skittles 6 hrs ago #58
Those who make such suggestions as a response to A.I. don't understand current technology 0rganism Tuesday #38
Excellent post, thanks Johnny2X2X Tuesday #40
I think we're a long way from robots who can do plumbing or electrical work... hunter Tuesday #42
It's always a long way until it's not 0rganism Tuesday #43
Maybe I'll use AI to create a virus that breaks AI. hunter Tuesday #45
In the case of AI it's a matter of scale rather than structure 0rganism Yesterday #52
AI gets to practice law, medicine, engineering, while humans get to fix the plumbing? tinrobot Tuesday #44
AI won't kill people with glowing red eye robots... hunter Tuesday #46
No protection there Blue Full Moon Tuesday #48
AI is much more limited than its promoters claim WSHazel Yesterday #51
That AI narrative is such bs jfz9580m 22 hrs ago #53
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