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In reply to the discussion: "The Democrats" did not cave. 36 Democrats stood firm and are as pissed as we are. [View all]Celerity
(53,034 posts)14. This is a false claim, both the Sunday 'cave-in' procedural vote AND the Monday final passage vote passed 60-40.
Senate passes bill to reopen the government as 8 Democrats join with Republicans to send it to the House
The legislation would keep the government funded through Jan. 30, without extending ACA funds slated to expire. It now goes to the House, which could vote as early as Wednesday.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/senate-passes-bill-reopen-government-sends-to-house-rcna243120
WASHINGTON The Senate passed legislation Monday night to reopen the government and end the record-long shutdown after eight Democrats broke with their party and joined Republicans to break the logjam.The vote was 60-40, with every Republican except Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky voting in favor of the measure.
The measure now goes to the House, which could vote as early as Wednesday to pass the package and send it to President Donald Trump, who said Monday that he supports the bipartisan deal. Senate passage came after a long vote series to reject several amendments and package the components of a deal into one.
The legislation includes a "minibus" of three full-year appropriations bills, including a full funding of Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP, benefits through the end of next September, and keeps much of the government open on a short-term basis through Jan. 30.
But in a major concession for Democrats, the deal does not include an extension of enhanced subsidies under Obamacare, or the Affordable Care Act, after Republicans held firm against extending those funds beyond this year. That means more than 20 million Americans could see their premiums spike next year.
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Roll Call Votes 119th Congress - 1st Session (2025)
https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/vote_menu_119_1.htm


The legislation would keep the government funded through Jan. 30, without extending ACA funds slated to expire. It now goes to the House, which could vote as early as Wednesday.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/senate-passes-bill-reopen-government-sends-to-house-rcna243120
WASHINGTON The Senate passed legislation Monday night to reopen the government and end the record-long shutdown after eight Democrats broke with their party and joined Republicans to break the logjam.The vote was 60-40, with every Republican except Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky voting in favor of the measure.
The measure now goes to the House, which could vote as early as Wednesday to pass the package and send it to President Donald Trump, who said Monday that he supports the bipartisan deal. Senate passage came after a long vote series to reject several amendments and package the components of a deal into one.
The legislation includes a "minibus" of three full-year appropriations bills, including a full funding of Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP, benefits through the end of next September, and keeps much of the government open on a short-term basis through Jan. 30.
But in a major concession for Democrats, the deal does not include an extension of enhanced subsidies under Obamacare, or the Affordable Care Act, after Republicans held firm against extending those funds beyond this year. That means more than 20 million Americans could see their premiums spike next year.
snip
Roll Call Votes 119th Congress - 1st Session (2025)
https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/vote_menu_119_1.htm


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"The Democrats" did not cave. 36 Democrats stood firm and are as pissed as we are. [View all]
Scrivener7
Tuesday
OP
I agree, but I think we can't let the ones who put airline profits over us define us to ourselves.
Scrivener7
Tuesday
#2
Blue no matter who. The person doesn't matter, their individual beliefs don't matter...
Lancero
Tuesday
#15
I'm sure some are pissed, but there is no way that the specific ones who voted with the Rs weren't calculated
Jbraybarten
Tuesday
#4
these 8 were designated to cave in the interest of, to be nice, opening the gov't and food stamps
rampartd
Tuesday
#10
This is a false claim, both the Sunday 'cave-in' procedural vote AND the Monday final passage vote passed 60-40.
Celerity
Tuesday
#14
False spin, there was zero chance that anything passed with unanimous consent could have stopped the final passage.
Celerity
Tuesday
#25
And the Titanic didn't really sink because the gash in the hull wasn't THAT wide....
jcmaine72
Tuesday
#13
39, not 36. We have 47 Democratic Caucus Senate members. 8 caved. 39 voted No, plus Rand Paul voted No, yielding 40 No's
Celerity
Tuesday
#16
It doesn't take more than the leadership. As in Schumer. If Schumer organized this,
Scrivener7
Tuesday
#20