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valleyrogue

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133. The facts won't convince people who have their minds made up because they are focusing ONLY on the ACA.

Tue Nov 11, 2025, 01:24 PM

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There are literally millions whose lives were at stake, at stake because of jobs, at stake because of the prospect of starvation.

It would have been catastrophic for the economy and for people's lives.

The ACA is important--but so are jobs, so is food, so is housing.

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Statement from Tim Kaine on his vote last night. [View all] Sogo Nov 10 OP

A fool jonstl08 Nov 10 #1

how was the shutdown going to change that? edisdead Nov 10 #61

Kaine also had the jacobs to call it (today on MSNBC) no big deal, a minor event. THAT is true arrogance on parade. Celerity Nov 10 #62

And he was picked to be VP in 2016!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 10 #104

Jacobs, harpy. You are on it. cachukis Nov 10 #106

But a well paid one I'm sure. yourout Nov 10 #102

I guess Tim thinks that Trump won't layoff more workers and will allow a fix for the ACA. dem4decades Nov 10 #2

"the duration of this funding bill." --- Jan 30, 2026, I believe. Raven123 Nov 10 #3

Trump doesn't mind newdeal2 Nov 10 #5

SNAP and WIC are through Sept 30th. IbogaProject Nov 10 #72

For the CR portion of this bill, yes InstantGratification Nov 10 #108

The deal fully funds SNAP and the VA for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2026. lapucelle Tuesday #124

You are now partially responsible for Americans' health cost increases. Squaredeal Nov 10 #4

Talk about twisted logic. Those premiums were going to increase even if the shutdown Wiz Imp Nov 10 #65

Thank you! Put the blame where it should go -- on the Rethuglicans who want us sick, stupid, and starving. OMGWTF Nov 10 #88

So why wait 40 days? Johnny2X2X Tuesday #122

To pass the two bills that fully fund SNAP and the VA until September 30, 2026. lapucelle Tuesday #127

I appreciate his transparency TheProle Nov 10 #6

I appreciate nothing. If he isn't willing to stand up Demsrule86 Nov 10 #19

You're certainly entitled to your disagreement. TheProle Nov 10 #20

I will work to primary them. I always vote Democratic. Demsrule86 Nov 10 #40

Understood and respected. TheProle Nov 10 #54

So do I, albeit for different reasons. BannonsLiver Nov 10 #36

TY Sogo.. Cha Nov 10 #7

FU, Tim pinkstarburst Nov 10 #8

So naive. NewHendoLib Nov 10 #9

Thank you for sharing this. He's a gem. Practical and realistic. But he's being attacked by the "purists" ... QueerDuck Nov 10 #10

We lost the ACA forever. There is nothing he could Demsrule86 Nov 10 #23

"I've lost my harmonica, Albert." Donkees Nov 10 #11

We caved because we love the country. Frasier Balzov Nov 10 #12

"robust full-year funding for SNAP, WIC, " Prairie Gates Nov 10 #13

actually no it wasn't dsc Nov 10 #21

Snap will be funded at pre pandemic levels, so after adding for inflation questionseverything Nov 10 #38

Cold comfort, but the 20 billion-ish annual SNAP cuts in the MAGA Murder Budget "blueprint" pat_k Nov 10 #63

Is that one of Republicans' "poison pills" that implements in 2027 so that it's AFTER the mid-terms... Beartracks Nov 10 #77

That it is. Until the cuts in the Murder Budget are implemented in an appropriations bill, they have no real effect. pat_k Nov 10 #95

Which by the way won't happen. Demsrule86 Nov 10 #44

I realized during Covid moreland01 Nov 10 #64

First, we're not friends. Baitball Blogger Nov 10 #14

OK Cirsium Nov 10 #15

Dear Tim Demsrule86 Nov 10 #16

You might want to check if any of the Craven Eight are on the 2026 ballot misanthrope Nov 10 #49

Shaheen and Durbin are retiring -- likely to some lobbying job rpannier Nov 10 #76

None of the Eight will run for re-election anytime soon. lapfog_1 Nov 10 #58

Thank you for living in the reality based community, Senator Kaine! tritsofme Nov 10 #17

...and taking one for the team. yowzayowzayowza Nov 10 #51

"We won't win it if we turn to in-fighting." Prairie Gates Nov 10 #18

So how do we win? We sure as hell lost last night. Demsrule86 Nov 10 #25

And mark my words Medicare is next. Demsrule86 Nov 10 #26

We'll trade Medicare for 17 more weeks of SNAP Prairie Gates Nov 10 #28

Exactly re'd !!! Demsrule86 Nov 10 #46

When do they actually come for the SNAP itself? misanthrope Nov 10 #53

And now because of your short sightedness thousands upon thousands will have no healthcare. Autumn Nov 10 #22

Perfect Autumn rec'd. I feel exactly the same Demsrule86 Nov 10 #32

Democrats created these enhanced COVID subsidies, and then put a 1 year sunset on them, which is long past AZJonnie Nov 10 #41

Whoosh !!! right over your head They fucking blew it and they should have made fucking sure some other Autumn Nov 10 #48

Who said "it was their plan all along"? Do you mean, like, since Day 1? AZJonnie Nov 10 #60

I misread nothing. Jeanne Shaheen let that cat out of the bag. Autumn Nov 10 #92

What "entire time"? From "the beginning" ... of what? AZJonnie Nov 10 #94

A fifth grader can understand what I posted. If you need help with it call her and ask her. Autumn Nov 10 #96

No I understand exactly what you are CLAIMING AZJonnie Nov 10 #98

No we would have lost the ACA sooner Demsrule86 Nov 10 #52

You found the right post, I saw your other one ;) AZJonnie Nov 10 #66

Well said!!! berksdem Nov 10 #103

The part that makes it even worse is how they timed it Bettie Tuesday #123

Good. And I think it'd be smart if all elected Democrats were saying this, in unison, now that the decision is made AZJonnie Nov 10 #24

Destroying health care is worse. And folks Demsrule86 Nov 10 #34

He may or may not realized that he and the crazy eight just stabbed every Democratic voter in the back. nt yaesu Nov 10 #39

Please see my post #41 above AZJonnie Nov 10 #47

I am on my phone in hospital so no Numbers. Demsrule86 Nov 10 #55

The vast, vast majority of House and Senate Dems think he fucked up, now that's unity!!! nt yaesu Nov 10 #35

That is THE OPPOSITE of unity, my friend AZJonnie Nov 10 #45

The Democratic party isn't in disarray. They fucked the very voters who have supported them. Autumn Nov 10 #50

They did exactly. Rec Demsrule86 Nov 10 #56

I have three wonderful great grandchildren. Two have severe asthma. Both parents work and get Autumn Nov 10 #59

"So we negotiated for what we could get": bupkis. 0rganism Nov 10 #27

He caved for a path, that's path etic. Emile Nov 10 #29

...last night's vote gave us a path for an ACA fix to stop a devastating rise in premiums... Xavier Breath Nov 10 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Nov 10 #37

Naivety? You're an optimist! Prairie Gates Nov 10 #42

he is not naive Skittles Nov 10 #109

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Nov 10 #110

he is still nowhere near as vile and disgusting as repukes are Skittles Nov 10 #112

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Nov 10 #113

the eight are getting the flak now instead of repukes Skittles Nov 10 #115

Last night will forever be known as the Kaine mutiny. nt yaesu Nov 10 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Nov 10 #33

They lied to you Tim. When are you going to believe they lie with every breath? Clouds Passing Nov 10 #43

"Finally, last night's vote gave us a path for an ACA fix to stop a devastating rise in premiums" lapfog_1 Nov 10 #57

A lot of words to say, Your ACA premiums are going to skyrocket. Hassler Nov 10 #67

I won't begrudge anyone BaronChocula Nov 10 #68

Did he have any meetings or town halls with people in his state Tribetime Nov 10 #69

A lot of people will be uninsured. Path-etic Emile Nov 10 #70

remember this is because of REPUBLICANS Skittles Nov 10 #114

A total wimp now trying to justify his cowardliness. walkingman Nov 10 #71

Just another lesson learned for the purity Democrats who couldn't vote for Harris. NoMoreRepugs Nov 10 #73

Not A Real Deal 2na fisherman Nov 10 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author CaptainTruth Nov 10 #75

You and a small handful rpannier Nov 10 #79

Why not Fetterman? Emile Nov 10 #93

I'm a Virginia constituent and federal employee KLK1972 Nov 10 #78

may we assume you didn't vote -R- Skittles Nov 10 #81

Definitely not!! KLK1972 Nov 10 #83

you have a home here Skittles Nov 10 #99

I am so sorry for what you, your family and neighbors are going through, KLK. sheshe2 Nov 10 #111

Welcome to DU. I'm so very sorry for what you & your family are going through. I respect Sen. Kaine... Hekate Tuesday #116

No one is happy with this, and it is easy for those who are NOT dependent on foodstamps, or on a check to lostincalifornia Tuesday #120

Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Tuesday #125

Welcome to DU. lapucelle Tuesday #129

Thank you for sharing your story and welcome to DU mcar Tuesday #131

Aloha KLK1972... Welcome to DU💙 Cha Tuesday #132

Honestly, I was quite surprised when Hillary picked him. hamsterjill Nov 10 #80

He was one of the top three contenders for Obama's VP pick, too. "Corporate shill"? betsuni Tuesday #117

So? Obama didn't wind up picking him, did he? hamsterjill Tuesday #118

Okay underpants Nov 10 #82

Congress: January 30, 2026. Marcuse Nov 10 #84

Not buying it but I appreciate him trying to explain his vote. AllyCat Nov 10 #85

Post removed Post removed Nov 10 #86

The "path for an ACA fix" Diraven Nov 10 #87

All I read was blah, blah, blah, I'm a weak senator, blah, blah, blah n/t aggiesal Nov 10 #89

A lesson from the Peanuts... djacq Nov 10 #90

Reminds me of this guy: Dave Bowman Nov 10 #91

Coward maspaha Nov 10 #97

Cool story bro 🙄 Javaman Nov 10 #100

Go jump in a lake. choie Nov 10 #101

This part is gaslighting: "I believe we can win this critical ACA battle if we fight for it together." LonePirate Nov 10 #105

He is what is going to happen. kacekwl Nov 10 #107

Tim---May I Call You Tim?---ALL Of What You Wrote Was Foreseen. And.... ColoringFool Tuesday #119

We're supposed to support Dems here Johnny2X2X Tuesday #121

F HIM F THEM VOTE EM OUT!! sunflowerseed Tuesday #126

Dear senator: "It is the job of thinking people not to be on the side of the executioners." Albert Camus Ping Tung Tuesday #128

Exactly Emile Tuesday #130

The facts won't convince people who have their minds made up because they are focusing ONLY on the ACA. valleyrogue Tuesday #133

These comparisons invoking feeding children vs the ACA health care is a fallacy... Hugin Tuesday #134