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democratsruletheday

(1,756 posts)
30. GO GREEN....
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 02:29 PM
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Intriguing post J2. Depends on the person IMO. My son knew from the time he was in 5th grade he wanted no part of college. He also knew from 9th grade on that he wanted to be a welder. So he enrolled at our local trade school in the Grand Rapids (MI) area called Kent Career Tech Center. He was doing great there when one day during his Sr. year a local HR person from a commercial construction firm came in and asked his Instructor for the 3 best students he had. My son was one of them and got an interview. He got the job and that was 6 months ago. He just turned 19 and is making close to $30 per hour with great benefits and a company truck. He is happy as a clam. They are busy and have approached him about becoming a crew leader: mission accomplished, right?

Not so fast.....

My daughter has had the opposite experience, upon graduating from college last May. She couldn't find anything in her major so she took a waitress job in Petoskey for the summer. Back home now and still has no full time job but is working a series of gig jobs and thinking seriously of starting her own small business. In the meantime her anxiety and mood swings haven't been fun to deal with. She thought a college degree ensured her a full time job with a company, and it sure doesn't these days. Her Mom (my wife) worked at the school paper and was hired by the Grand Rapids Press out of Michigan State U. and has been there the last 33 years. I have job hopped and finally landed in Education but it's been brutal at times. So everyone forges their own path to some degree and who's to say what's best: college or trade school? As I said, it's largely dependent on the individual.

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It makes sense SO FAR TheFarseer Tuesday #1
I still think inevitable lawsuits are going to slow the "self driving semi" train down. Callie1979 Tuesday #4
even liberal arts degrees eventually pay off DBoon Tuesday #2
Even more so in an AI World JCMach1 Tuesday #18
As they always have Iris Tuesday #21
I've been saying "learn a trade" my whole life. College is a scam Callie1979 Tuesday #3
I've had the opposite experience Johnny2X2X Tuesday #5
GO GREEN.... democratsruletheday Tuesday #30
I graduated from college with zero debt. hunter Tuesday #9
True enough about the non-career years of education biophile Tuesday #10
I've recommended that to many kids. Get most of your hrs at the smaller cheaper places Callie1979 Tuesday #22
Yes, good idea. biophile Tuesday #27
Why are you parroting RW billshit? Happy Hoosier Tuesday #47
Good for you; most dont have parents pay for their school. Trade school made me financially secure. Callie1979 Wednesday #55
I perfectly cool with people learning a trade, if that's the best choice for them. Happy Hoosier Thursday #61
a lot of jobs now that require a degree Skittles Wednesday #57
Companies requiring a bachelors degree for a job have dropped in recent yrs. Callie1979 Thursday #59
"Go to college! Learn to code!" used to be our reprose to workers complaining about automation, outsourcing, and... Lancero Tuesday #6
If I were a junior engineer starting out Johnny2X2X Tuesday #7
Good luck getting a junior engineering Boo1 Tuesday #13
I'm a senior engineer in aerospace Johnny2X2X Tuesday #14
I agree Boo1 Tuesday #16
I disagree somewhat Johnny2X2X Tuesday #19
Are you an engineer? Happy Hoosier Tuesday #49
No Boo1 Wednesday #50
Using AI to code is going to create all sorts of jobs for people who can maintain that code... hunter Tuesday #15
Agree Johnny2X2X Tuesday #20
I just don't want to be run over by a driverless truck... hunter Tuesday #26
I cannot wait for the roads to be majority driverless vehicles. Johnny2X2X Tuesday #31
That sounds dystopian to me. hunter Tuesday #41
Do both. Trades and college. Don't make this a binary question. CoopersDad Tuesday #8
It never hurts to be multi-competent! biophile Tuesday #12
Exactly CD....as I said before, my kid LOVES democratsruletheday Tuesday #32
Yes, equal time should be given to technical school & college. Callie1979 Wednesday #56
The belief that going to college is a bad idea is at the forefront of project 2025 policy. patphil Tuesday #11
Well put Johnny2X2X Tuesday #17
College was simply not for me. Technical school was. And I retired at 53 Callie1979 Tuesday #23
Good for you Johnny2X2X Tuesday #37
This message was self-deleted by its author Stacey Grove Tuesday #24
It's not a bad idea, but not the right idea for everyone. flvegan Tuesday #25
Trade jobs are being taken by robots lame54 Tuesday #28
Glad you started this topic fujiyamasan Tuesday #29
Solid article on the subject.... democratsruletheday Tuesday #33
I support everyone going to at least a two-year college before chosing a career LogDog75 Tuesday #34
I learned a trade Jilly_in_VA Tuesday #35
BSNs aren't required to do rotations before graduating? Johnny2X2X Tuesday #39
They do, but it varies Jilly_in_VA Wednesday #54
The point of education is that it teaches you how to learn and how to think. milestogo Tuesday #36
LOL Skittles Wednesday #58
Those who make such suggestions as a response to A.I. don't understand current technology 0rganism Tuesday #38
Excellent post, thanks Johnny2X2X Tuesday #40
I think we're a long way from robots who can do plumbing or electrical work... hunter Tuesday #42
It's always a long way until it's not 0rganism Tuesday #43
Maybe I'll use AI to create a virus that breaks AI. hunter Tuesday #45
In the case of AI it's a matter of scale rather than structure 0rganism Wednesday #52
What I learned in trade school in 1992 still applies today Kaleva Thursday #60
AI gets to practice law, medicine, engineering, while humans get to fix the plumbing? tinrobot Tuesday #44
AI won't kill people with glowing red eye robots... hunter Tuesday #46
No protection there Blue Full Moon Tuesday #48
AI is much more limited than its promoters claim WSHazel Wednesday #51
That AI narrative is such bs jfz9580m Wednesday #53
If millions went to college, wouldn't create a race to the bottom for wages? Kaleva Thursday #62
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