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AZJonnie

(2,261 posts)
11. No I do not think it will matter
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 03:11 PM
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In no small part because we'll never get the whole thing, un-doctored by Bondi and Patel.

But also because I think that even the full files would drop with a nothing-burger level thud in the first place. In the sense there will be nothing new and earth-shattering in them.

That's because I believe if they actually contained the things that people frantically speculate about, like all-powerful Pedo Cabals with the power to whack Epstein in jail, and/or Epstein running a massive child-prostitution ring to the rich and famous, this would have part of the Biden DoJ's case against Maxwell. Instead they prosecuted her for trafficking a couple of girls to Epstein himself, and got a conviction for only 1.

Also I believe Epstein's pilots, who were PROSECUTION witnesses for the DOJ in the Maxwell case, who said Giuffre is the only minor they know of who travelled without a guardian on the plane, ever. And they presumed Guiffre was over 18 because of how she dressed, carried herself, and was treated by Epstein and Maxwell, i.e. like an adult, and she travelled with them a LOT of times. And that they never found evidence of sex while cleaning up after flights, and that they were never told any area of the plane was "off-limits", ever, and that they spent time in the cabin fairly often, used the restroom in the cabin area, etc. They testified this under oath, in a massive, high-profile case against Maxwell, where any of presumably dozens of women could call them out and say "bullshit" if they were lying? And none of them did.

I think the reality of the Epstein case is considerably more mundane than people speculate. A couple of rich perverts recruiting and paying vulnerable minors for sex, with themselves. Though I do believe they shared their concubine, Virginia Giuffre, with Prince Andrew, and probably some others, since she says that happened.

Basically, I think we already pretty much know what happened even without the release of the files. What probably IS in the files though is some evidence of people KNOWING, but not saying jack about it. People like TSF, for example.

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He will veto the release, then you need 67 senators to override. NoRethugFriends Tuesday #1
Where did you read that? AZJonnie Tuesday #4
It is a bill like any other. Needs to be passed by the both houses and signed by president. NoRethugFriends Tuesday #8
Yes and No Jersey Devil Tuesday #30
Sadly, what we know now purr-rat beauty Tuesday #13
I certainly don't, MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #2
Semper Fi MGySgt sarisataka Tuesday #7
I agree. It is confirming what we already think we know. OLDMDDEM Tuesday #3
I think what we suspect is in the files is worse than what it actually in them. Therefore, I'm fine with letting trump Silent Type Tuesday #5
From what I.. 2naSalit Tuesday #18
A lot of people do for some reason. BlueTsunami2018 Tuesday #6
They removed anything that is incriminating Trump. Emile Tuesday #9
No, it won't make a difference Bettie Tuesday #10
No I do not think it will matter AZJonnie Tuesday #11
It's water cooler talk in the office where I work Torchlight Tuesday #12
They could really rile up his MAGA base leftstreet Tuesday #14
I'll do you one better: the whole thing is a giant McGuffin Prairie Gates Tuesday #15
They aren't going to matter. mr715 Tuesday #16
If you've been the victim of sexual abuse, it matters misanthrope Tuesday #17
I am speaking only of the effect the release would have on any change in the political landscape sarisataka Tuesday #22
Yeah, see the politics are secondary to me misanthrope Tuesday #26
Michael Wolff says there are bad photos-- viva la Tuesday #19
To normal humans? Yes they matter ... To MAGA? Not so much uponit7771 Tuesday #20
If "removing Trump for office" is the threshold for things that matter, Qutzupalotl Tuesday #21
Independent evidence will show up no matter the DOJ shielding what it has. usonian Tuesday #23
My, my, my. Look at all the Democrats, giving up. Paladin Tuesday #24
Yasha Levine articulated the gist jfz9580m Tuesday #25
If they have Trump raping a 3 year old on tape Republicans would say it was AI. nt doc03 Tuesday #27
How many Republican billionaires are in the files? How many prominent politicians besides Trump? DBoon Tuesday #28
Lately its just an excuse for stupid decisions (the crazy 8). nt yaesu Tuesday #29
The most important benefit snot Tuesday #31
They do, just not as much as one would hope. quaker bill Tuesday #32
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