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38. Those who make such suggestions as a response to A.I. don't understand current technology
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 03:15 PM
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First, the AI we see now remains far from AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) but it's on the development track. And that progress is encouraged and accelerated by the oligarchs who now dominate society. We don't publicly see the real AI at work yet, but it's getting to the point where it can build, train, refine, and improve itself. As this process continues, we move closer and closer to an event horizon where the AI improves itself at speeds beyond human researchers' ability to comprehend, let alone regulate, it at all. Already the systems are becoming opaque to us, as these software entities increasingly operate well beyond our analytic capabilities, our relationships with these technologies become more personal and less operational, as developers behave increasingly like tutors and nannies. But this is still years away from the real AGI stuff; how many years? Who knows, but a decade seems like a safe upper bound.

When I was in college and trade school in the early 2000s, we were already at the point where the tech one used when starting trade school and college often became obsolete before graduation. That pace has not slowed.

Those who advocate for vocational training with technology to substitute robust college educations which teach underlying principles, as some kind of ultimate response to AI replacement are dispensing dangerous advice. Humanoid robotics are also advancing rapidly, and many of these robots can be operated semi-autonomously by AI. Not that AI needs such bodies to interact and compete when 3D printers and CNC tables are possibilities. Beyond that, rudimentary autonomous self-operating vehicles exist already, are in a continuous process of refinement, and will likely be commonplace within 20 years.

When the humanoid robot who vacuums your floors, cooks your food, does your laundry, and chauffeurs your family around can also play chess at a grandmaster level, paint like Van Gogh, speak all human languages fluently, handle plumbing and electrical wiring jobs around your house, and tutor your kids in calculus, the role of humanity will change of necessity. One way or another, humans and our societies must change to adapt to this new pressure. Simplistic shit like "get a Real Job" just won't cut it. Not anymore.

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It makes sense SO FAR TheFarseer Tuesday #1
I still think inevitable lawsuits are going to slow the "self driving semi" train down. Callie1979 Tuesday #4
even liberal arts degrees eventually pay off DBoon Tuesday #2
Even more so in an AI World JCMach1 Tuesday #18
As they always have Iris Tuesday #21
I've been saying "learn a trade" my whole life. College is a scam Callie1979 Tuesday #3
I've had the opposite experience Johnny2X2X Tuesday #5
GO GREEN.... democratsruletheday Tuesday #30
I graduated from college with zero debt. hunter Tuesday #9
True enough about the non-career years of education biophile Tuesday #10
I've recommended that to many kids. Get most of your hrs at the smaller cheaper places Callie1979 Tuesday #22
Yes, good idea. biophile Tuesday #27
Why are you parroting RW billshit? Happy Hoosier Tuesday #47
Good for you; most dont have parents pay for their school. Trade school made me financially secure. Callie1979 Wednesday #55
I perfectly cool with people learning a trade, if that's the best choice for them. Happy Hoosier Yesterday #61
a lot of jobs now that require a degree Skittles Wednesday #57
Companies requiring a bachelors degree for a job have dropped in recent yrs. Callie1979 Yesterday #59
"Go to college! Learn to code!" used to be our reprose to workers complaining about automation, outsourcing, and... Lancero Tuesday #6
If I were a junior engineer starting out Johnny2X2X Tuesday #7
Good luck getting a junior engineering Boo1 Tuesday #13
I'm a senior engineer in aerospace Johnny2X2X Tuesday #14
I agree Boo1 Tuesday #16
I disagree somewhat Johnny2X2X Tuesday #19
Are you an engineer? Happy Hoosier Tuesday #49
No Boo1 Wednesday #50
Using AI to code is going to create all sorts of jobs for people who can maintain that code... hunter Tuesday #15
Agree Johnny2X2X Tuesday #20
I just don't want to be run over by a driverless truck... hunter Tuesday #26
I cannot wait for the roads to be majority driverless vehicles. Johnny2X2X Tuesday #31
That sounds dystopian to me. hunter Tuesday #41
Do both. Trades and college. Don't make this a binary question. CoopersDad Tuesday #8
It never hurts to be multi-competent! biophile Tuesday #12
Exactly CD....as I said before, my kid LOVES democratsruletheday Tuesday #32
Yes, equal time should be given to technical school & college. Callie1979 Wednesday #56
The belief that going to college is a bad idea is at the forefront of project 2025 policy. patphil Tuesday #11
Well put Johnny2X2X Tuesday #17
College was simply not for me. Technical school was. And I retired at 53 Callie1979 Tuesday #23
Good for you Johnny2X2X Tuesday #37
This message was self-deleted by its author Stacey Grove Tuesday #24
It's not a bad idea, but not the right idea for everyone. flvegan Tuesday #25
Trade jobs are being taken by robots lame54 Tuesday #28
Glad you started this topic fujiyamasan Tuesday #29
Solid article on the subject.... democratsruletheday Tuesday #33
I support everyone going to at least a two-year college before chosing a career LogDog75 Tuesday #34
I learned a trade Jilly_in_VA Tuesday #35
BSNs aren't required to do rotations before graduating? Johnny2X2X Tuesday #39
They do, but it varies Jilly_in_VA Wednesday #54
The point of education is that it teaches you how to learn and how to think. milestogo Tuesday #36
LOL Skittles Wednesday #58
Those who make such suggestions as a response to A.I. don't understand current technology 0rganism Tuesday #38
Excellent post, thanks Johnny2X2X Tuesday #40
I think we're a long way from robots who can do plumbing or electrical work... hunter Tuesday #42
It's always a long way until it's not 0rganism Tuesday #43
Maybe I'll use AI to create a virus that breaks AI. hunter Tuesday #45
In the case of AI it's a matter of scale rather than structure 0rganism Wednesday #52
What I learned in trade school in 1992 still applies today Kaleva Yesterday #60
AI gets to practice law, medicine, engineering, while humans get to fix the plumbing? tinrobot Tuesday #44
AI won't kill people with glowing red eye robots... hunter Tuesday #46
No protection there Blue Full Moon Tuesday #48
AI is much more limited than its promoters claim WSHazel Wednesday #51
That AI narrative is such bs jfz9580m Wednesday #53
If millions went to college, wouldn't create a race to the bottom for wages? Kaleva Yesterday #62
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