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Ilikepurple

(386 posts)
39. Thumbs up or thumbs down is the most basic political action we can take
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 07:00 PM
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I agree with much you have to say in OP. Facts are important. It’s important to recognize accomplishments. I don’t think we really know what Schumer’s strategy is yet, but it’s certainly up for debate. I don’t see how he could have saved the subsidies, but also am not entirely convinced the shutdown strategy was. I certainly don’t see the deal as a win. I think your voice is an important one on this board, but take issue with the rhetorical content of your post.
You could have made your points without directly attacking others as they could have when criticizing those defending Schumer. You talk of derisive responses yet relegate those critical of Schumer or the institutional democrats as having opinions not on the same level, i.e. ones so low and diverted from reality that their opinion should be kept to themselves. What is it if it isn’t cheerleading when any criticism of your favored democrats is considered diverting from the reality that we should just shut up and let the grownups drive the car?
I mainly have a hard time with the last two paragraphs where you seem to go out of your way to try to convince others that we should substitute our judgment for those of our party leaders. Protest is not political action? Of course it is. Thumbs up or thumbs down isn’t? What do you think votes or public opinion are. I grow so tired of salient points devolving into cheap rhetorical devices designed either to convert or anger. I’m not on the same level nor do I have the same accomplishments as Schumer or Thune, but that doesn’t mean I have to defer to either of their judgments on all things political or support their leadership positions. The great thing about opinions about divisive issues on this forum is that the ensuing debate is an opportunity for a better understanding of the issues. We aren’t nobodies nor are we silly or ridiculous for having opinions even if not fully informed. I’m also not sure if your rhetoric changed any opinions as much as it hurt or angered your real or imagined opponents. You’re not responsible for how I process facts or under any compulsion to care about my views of your post, but then I’m at a loss as why it exists.

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Why didn't they push that expiration date? leftstreet Tuesday #1
Mostly due to the funny math that is required under reconciliation. tritsofme Tuesday #4
Don't scold voters over arcane senate rules leftstreet Tuesday #11
this is arguing with umbrellas bigtree Tuesday #14
We could also try not attacking Democrats out of ignorance. tritsofme Tuesday #15
LOL leftstreet Tuesday #18
I posted the reason. Manchin, bigtree Tuesday #5
Schumer couldn't control Manchin? leftstreet Tuesday #9
take some time to read the history of that legislative period bigtree Tuesday #12
Okay n/t leftstreet Tuesday #13
Pure silliness. You can't "strip committee assignments" from members who can strip the majority away from you. tritsofme Tuesday #19
You think they'd give up their power? leftstreet Tuesday #22
It would have been a completely empty threat, when they could react to any such tritsofme Tuesday #29
So rigged leftstreet Tuesday #30
That's just the reality. tritsofme Tuesday #33
My guess is that either Manchin refused to go any longer dsc Tuesday #6
It's sad they didn't use another mechanism leftstreet Tuesday #21
Manchin insisted on the 3 year sunsetting of the subsidies. It was one of his multiple demands in order to pass the 2022 Celerity Tuesday #16
I know leftstreet Tuesday #24
Hope this helps orangecrush Tuesday #2
Schumer will remain the minority leader until we win the House in '26. It is up to the voters whether we walkingman Tuesday #3
in my view bigtree Tuesday #8
If AOC primaries him then I think he retires. Ace Rothstein Tuesday #32
Who would replace him, any ideas? We have to come up with a real solution to the Progressive/Moderate walkingman Tuesday #34
it's going to be a free for all bigtree Tuesday #37
Merci! Mme. Defarge Tuesday #7
Can you post a thread without criticizing your fellow DUers? demmiblue Tuesday #10
Zero chance of that. We all just need to conform harder and be more servile to leadership. BannonsLiver Tuesday #45
Yes, he was heading cat as well. frogstar0 Tuesday #17
Two things Samael13 Tuesday #20
he fucking controlled these senators for 40 damn days bigtree Tuesday #23
Good for him Samael13 Tuesday #25
that's not accurate. Not by a mile. bigtree Tuesday #26
Dear bigtree -,people just don't want to take the time to Ninga Tuesday #38
Excellent point ..... anciano Tuesday #35
no one lost their job bigtree Tuesday #40
Aha..I should have said "laid off" instead of "lost"..... anciano Tuesday #42
That sounds like how abusive/neglectful parents talk about kids to excuse their own behavior. RockRaven Tuesday #27
I'm not responsible for how you process facts. bigtree Tuesday #28
By all means, continue communicating with others as you have been with the same results then. RockRaven Tuesday #31
oh my bigtree Tuesday #36
Thumbs up or thumbs down is the most basic political action we can take Ilikepurple Tuesday #39
whatever, I'm not campaigning for anything bigtree Tuesday #41
I'm at a loss as to what this thread's purpose is then? Ilikepurple Tuesday #43
Amen! Preach on.... anciano Tuesday #48
how the heck am I supposed to know what you want? bigtree Tuesday #49
Spin it! BannonsLiver Tuesday #44
🎼🎵🎶🔊 Celerity Tuesday #46
Total banger even after all these years. BannonsLiver Tuesday #47
Whatever Schumer's done and been in the past, he isn't up to the task now Arazi Tuesday #50
Does this mean we owe Schumer two thank-yous? One for his assistance is giving us the ACA and one for taking it from us? in2herbs Wednesday #51
Great post. 👍 underpants Wednesday #52
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