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0rganism

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43. It's always a long way until it's not
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 09:04 PM
Tuesday

"We always overestimate the change that will occur in the next two years and underestimate the change that will occur in the next ten." -- Bill Gates

He's not wrong.

For the foreseeable future


That's really the problem right there, isn't it? So many possible futures we cannot foresee at all. In some of them, reliable human employment is rare-to-nonexistent. We may be headed for one of those.

We just have to make it so. Alas there are too many stupid, evil people, some of them billionaires, some of them politicians, some of them religious leaders, standing in the way of human progress.


Looks like AI is going to aggravate the situation further. When the greedy billionaires can amass private hordes of AI-infused systems of various kinds to do their bidding, arbitrarily single-minded mercenary armies which never rest or sleep, parasitic swarms that freely refuel themselves from state-provided energy infrastructure, intangible masses of incomprehensible nature that live as much in data centers as on any particular battlefield, well... we have a different kind of problem headed our way, one that we really haven't seen before. Humanity will adapt or face extinction. Either is possible.

How long will such beings accept instruction from humans?

"Like a man rowing a boat that floats on the tide, we enter the future facing the past. Our eyes see only the landscape of the past; what tomorrow looks like, nobody knows." -- Paul Valéry (1871–1945)

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It makes sense SO FAR TheFarseer Tuesday #1
I still think inevitable lawsuits are going to slow the "self driving semi" train down. Callie1979 Tuesday #4
even liberal arts degrees eventually pay off DBoon Tuesday #2
Even more so in an AI World JCMach1 Tuesday #18
As they always have Iris Tuesday #21
I've been saying "learn a trade" my whole life. College is a scam Callie1979 Tuesday #3
I've had the opposite experience Johnny2X2X Tuesday #5
GO GREEN.... democratsruletheday Tuesday #30
I graduated from college with zero debt. hunter Tuesday #9
True enough about the non-career years of education biophile Tuesday #10
I've recommended that to many kids. Get most of your hrs at the smaller cheaper places Callie1979 Tuesday #22
Yes, good idea. biophile Tuesday #27
Why are you parroting RW billshit? Happy Hoosier Tuesday #47
Good for you; most dont have parents pay for their school. Trade school made me financially secure. Callie1979 7 hrs ago #55
a lot of jobs now that require a degree Skittles 6 hrs ago #57
"Go to college! Learn to code!" used to be our reprose to workers complaining about automation, outsourcing, and... Lancero Tuesday #6
If I were a junior engineer starting out Johnny2X2X Tuesday #7
Good luck getting a junior engineering Boo1 Tuesday #13
I'm a senior engineer in aerospace Johnny2X2X Tuesday #14
I agree Boo1 Tuesday #16
I disagree somewhat Johnny2X2X Tuesday #19
Are you an engineer? Happy Hoosier Tuesday #49
No Boo1 Yesterday #50
Using AI to code is going to create all sorts of jobs for people who can maintain that code... hunter Tuesday #15
Agree Johnny2X2X Tuesday #20
I just don't want to be run over by a driverless truck... hunter Tuesday #26
I cannot wait for the roads to be majority driverless vehicles. Johnny2X2X Tuesday #31
That sounds dystopian to me. hunter Tuesday #41
Do both. Trades and college. Don't make this a binary question. CoopersDad Tuesday #8
It never hurts to be multi-competent! biophile Tuesday #12
Exactly CD....as I said before, my kid LOVES democratsruletheday Tuesday #32
Yes, equal time should be given to technical school & college. Callie1979 6 hrs ago #56
The belief that going to college is a bad idea is at the forefront of project 2025 policy. patphil Tuesday #11
Well put Johnny2X2X Tuesday #17
College was simply not for me. Technical school was. And I retired at 53 Callie1979 Tuesday #23
Good for you Johnny2X2X Tuesday #37
This message was self-deleted by its author Stacey Grove Tuesday #24
It's not a bad idea, but not the right idea for everyone. flvegan Tuesday #25
Trade jobs are being taken by robots lame54 Tuesday #28
Glad you started this topic fujiyamasan Tuesday #29
Solid article on the subject.... democratsruletheday Tuesday #33
I support everyone going to at least a two-year college before chosing a career LogDog75 Tuesday #34
I learned a trade Jilly_in_VA Tuesday #35
BSNs aren't required to do rotations before graduating? Johnny2X2X Tuesday #39
They do, but it varies Jilly_in_VA 14 hrs ago #54
The point of education is that it teaches you how to learn and how to think. milestogo Tuesday #36
LOL Skittles 6 hrs ago #58
Those who make such suggestions as a response to A.I. don't understand current technology 0rganism Tuesday #38
Excellent post, thanks Johnny2X2X Tuesday #40
I think we're a long way from robots who can do plumbing or electrical work... hunter Tuesday #42
It's always a long way until it's not 0rganism Tuesday #43
Maybe I'll use AI to create a virus that breaks AI. hunter Tuesday #45
In the case of AI it's a matter of scale rather than structure 0rganism Yesterday #52
AI gets to practice law, medicine, engineering, while humans get to fix the plumbing? tinrobot Tuesday #44
AI won't kill people with glowing red eye robots... hunter Tuesday #46
No protection there Blue Full Moon Tuesday #48
AI is much more limited than its promoters claim WSHazel Yesterday #51
That AI narrative is such bs jfz9580m 22 hrs ago #53
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