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crimycarny

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58. I agree--and I'm still apoplectic about ACA subsidies not being extended
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 11:51 PM
Tuesday

I'm still furious about the Dems not holding out for ACA subsidies, but I also don't have to rely on SNAP to feed my family. Losing healthcare is devastating as well, but I don't know how long people affected by no money for food could have held out.

Today's GOP has become such a corrupt party that I honestly don't know if they would EVER have agreed to ACA subsidies, no matter how long it took. They don't care what it looks like or who gets hurt; it is impossible to shame them because they have no sense of shame.

Look at what they did with the bill they just sent to the House, they added a portion that pays the eight senators whose phone records were subpoenaed $500K for EACH PHONE LINE. That is a party that has literally abandoned all sense of responsibility to anyone but themselves. They would have held out forever.

What needs to happen now is that the Democratic Party needs to get its act together and message the sh*t out of the outcome. Make precise comparisons to what the GOP is spending, and on what, and compare that to how many years of ACA subsidies that money would have bought. As far as I know, the Democrats never put a specific number on the cost of extending the ACA subsidies, so people could estimate it to be anywhere from $500 billion to $2 trillion. If they had provided an example of the bailout to Argentina and how that would have funded X amount of years of ACA subsidies, I think that would have had a significant impact.

Also, bring up the $500K being paid to GOP senators just for having their phone records legally subpoenaed every chance they get. Geez, maybe hire Gavin Newsom's press office as consultants.

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Listen to him. Republicans caved not Democrats. Srkdqltr Monday #1
HE'S RIGHT. ancianita Monday #18
They killed the ACA. Demsrule86 Tuesday #50
He's giving an alternative perspective on the "deal" - Republicans "caved" spooky3 Monday #2
Bullshit. choie Monday #4
Have a nice day! nt spooky3 Monday #5
Post removed Post removed Monday #9
He also said that John Glenn was the 1st person to orbit the earth Layzeebeaver Tuesday #38
John Glenn was not the first person to orbit the earth! Layzeebeaver Tuesday #39
We lost healthcare... likely forever. Demsrule86 Tuesday #51
They did not get SNAP increased. choie Monday #3
Got current payment levels restored. Whether that matters enough depends one's perspective. Silent Type Monday #10
increased BACK to what is already mandated by law, Jack Valentino Tuesday #29
It was fully restored and guaranteed through September of 2026. That's a big deal. SunSeeker Tuesday #35
SNAP was always going to be avialable through September 30, 2026. choie Tuesday #48
Wrong. SNAP ran out of money Nov. 1. SunSeeker Tuesday #53
That was due to the shutdown. choie Tuesday #55
In past shutdowns, SNAP was always paid out of emergency funds. Not this time. SunSeeker Tuesday #57
Love Lawrence, but he's full of shit tonight Jersey Devil Monday #6
Is that what happened? mr715 Monday #7
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Monday #8
Remember: Being a woman Bettie Monday #16
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Monday #17
This is why I don't watch garbage like MSNow or whatever the fuck it's called now fujiyamasan Monday #11
I used to like Lawrence, but he now takes the easy path to popularity - just tells the base what they want to hear. Midwestern Democrat Tuesday #40
Thanks for the rundown fujiyamasan Tuesday #41
Totally on point. 👍nt Raine Tuesday #43
Adding Ali Velshi, always try and catch his show. nt cliffside Tuesday #54
TY for LO'D, ellen. I'll have to catch it Cha Monday #12
CRITICAL, Cha. elleng Monday #15
Here you go: Rhiannon12866 Tuesday #21
lol... I just got your link and Cha Tuesday #25
There was only one with Lawrence O'Donnell tonight, just his monologue, MSNBC didn't upload any guests Rhiannon12866 Tuesday #28
Ah, I see now... jcmaine72 Monday #13
I'm playing tiddlywinks COL Mustard Tuesday #32
Tell it to the sick people who won't be able to afford healthcare. One DUer says this will Scrivener7 Monday #14
sweet! did they also accomplish the thing that was their goal they told us about for the last 40 days? Takket Monday #19
Maybe I'm misinformed, but I think that all would have happened without the shutdown. Ilikepurple Tuesday #20
Here's Lawrence O'Donnell, for those who missed it: Rhiannon12866 Tuesday #22
Oh but what about my unicorn!!!!1!11! (sarcasm) MorbidButterflyTat Tuesday #23
Healthcare is a unicorn now. Great. Scrivener7 Tuesday #45
LOL popsdenver Tuesday #24
well, we got a lot of promises, that's it though it is comforting that he's letting US know how good we have it yaesu Tuesday #26
It's excellent! betsuni Tuesday #27
So what is it? The Democrats accomplished great things or Ilikepurple Tuesday #31
Lawrence's show is excellent. He said the same thing I said, that a few Democrats doesn't mean the whole party. betsuni Tuesday #37
I think his show is decent, but I'm not sure what position they abandoned? Ilikepurple Tuesday #42
The one thing they wanted the most, they caved and let go. lees1975 Tuesday #30
It feels like an outright gaslighting campaign fujiyamasan Tuesday #47
I'm with Lawrence on this one padah513 Tuesday #33
I agree--and I'm still apoplectic about ACA subsidies not being extended crimycarny Tuesday #58
I watched it lapfog_1 Tuesday #34
He Mentioned Guarantees by the Republicans 2na fisherman Tuesday #36
This is exactly BeerBarrelPolka Tuesday #44
Therecare no guarantees. Demsrule86 Tuesday #52
Here is Lawrence's explanation LetMyPeopleVote Tuesday #46
Honestly, if there's some massive, hidden strategy in all of this hamsterjill Tuesday #49
We have seen tepid, semi-apologies and justifications mr715 Tuesday #56
Dems made it hurt less, uponit7771 Yesterday #59
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