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QueerDuck

(595 posts)
12. I think we can all agree that "socialism" is a charged term...
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 04:01 PM
12 hrs ago

I think we can all agree that "socialism" is a charged term and that won't gain traction in places like West Virginia and similar states. That’s simply a reality we must accept. We’ll likely always have conservative Democrats --- if we're lucky. It reminds me of how much Joe Manchin was hated and harassed. Did that improve anything? No. Did his conservative views change? No. Did he leave the party? Yes. And how did that turn out for us?

At least with Manchin, we had someone who contributed to our Senate majority, but so many wanted to primary him to "teach him a lesson" for not being a Vermont-style liberal. Did they seriously believe West Virginia would elect any Democrat who wasn't right-of-center? What did they get instead? Jim Justice --- considered a very right-leaning Republican.

Times have changed. It will be a long time before another Rockefeller or Byrd warms the hearts of West Virginians. That seat Manchin held was crucial for Senate control, influencing hearings and bill decisions. I think a lot of people forget that CONTROL of the senate matters more than how a single senator votes. We need to look at the big picture and think strategically instead of emotionally.

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Most of them did. Ocelot II 15 hrs ago #1
Special math applying only to Democrats. "Handful" means all of them. THEM (enemy) vs US, the populist way. betsuni 14 hrs ago #5
We just need to put up candidates that understand our viewpoints. Baitball Blogger 14 hrs ago #2
Senators are elected from their own states. MineralMan 14 hrs ago #3
Centrist Democrats are elected by largely centrist states. It's quite likely that trying to primary an incumbent... QueerDuck 14 hrs ago #4
Has a centrist ever run on Medicare For All? leftstreet 13 hrs ago #8
It's not a theory, it's a fact. QueerDuck 13 hrs ago #9
I think we're starting to see a shift leftstreet 13 hrs ago #11
I think we can all agree that "socialism" is a charged term... QueerDuck 12 hrs ago #12
Gosh I hope not! leftstreet 12 hrs ago #14
Gosh, I hope SO! Even with the "ick" factor considered... QueerDuck 12 hrs ago #15
More Joe Manchin's Emile 13 hrs ago #7
Better to have an "unreliable" Joe Manchin who never votes with-the-Dems... QueerDuck 12 hrs ago #13
The law is designed for stability, not justice. pecosbob 14 hrs ago #6
We keep voting for "harm reduction" and yet no harm is ever reduced. BlueTsunami2018 13 hrs ago #10
Bad Example DET 10 hrs ago #16
Respectfully, what you just wrote was essentially the Republican talking point at the time... PeaceWave 9 hrs ago #17
You Make Good Points DET 6 hrs ago #18
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