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AZJonnie

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Wed Nov 12, 2025, 06:44 PM Wednesday

Sorry to annoy everyone yet again, but much about that Epstein email hangs on the accuracy of one word [View all]

That word is "Victim". As such, I think there's more that we need the answer to before we pop the champagne corks saying yelling we were right all along.

Consider the exact content as presented to us, but two different versions of it, and keep in mind we don't really know any other context (which, to me, is odd, as this seems to be the middle of a discussion):

"“i want you to realize that that dog that hasn’t barked is trump.. Teen Rachel spent hours at my house with him ,, he has never once been mentioned. police chief. etc. im 75 % there.”


or this version

"“i want you to realize that that dog that hasn’t barked is trump.. Donna Smith spent hours at my house with him ,, he has never once been mentioned. police chief. etc. im 75 % there.”


Wherein "Donna Smith" is actually a cop, but the person who redacted it, just assumed "Victim".

I would propose to everyone here to at least *consider* the possibility that (Victim) turns out to be inaccurate. Why? Because the 2nd version of this email makes at LEAST as much sense, if not more. In this version, he's simply saying Trump hasn't ratted him out, as far as he knows. And "75% there" in this context is some kind of gauge on how close he is to getting out of deep shit with investigators.

Without knowing what was actually there, OR the surrounding context, I'm hesitant throw 100% credence on use of the word "Victim". I know this is annoying habit of mine, I'm sorry I'm always doing this and people are just going ugh But I also have a hard time thinking that if " (Name of Victim) " was the original words, and Biden's DoJ didn't find a way to get this content out there via a leak, or something, before the 2024 election? I'd just be really severely disappointed

OTOH, at minimum, in version #2? It's SOLID PROOF that not only did Trump KNOW? But he was also literally talked to by the cops, and (apparently) didn't say shit about what he KNEW!!! As I've consistently said, there's no question he fucking KNEW and didn't SAY shit, and the files are full of that, which really may be enough for him to fight their release as he has

Again sorry to piss in the proverbial cheerios, yet again.
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you seem very vested in all of this Skittles Wednesday #1
to be honest every day I see dozens here incredibly vested in this. WarGamer Wednesday #3
I have two answers for you AZJonnie Wednesday #4
Is that email in question from the estate? OneGrassRoot Wednesday #6
I cannot possibly imagine that the DoJ does/did not have everything the Estate has in this regard, long ago AZJonnie Wednesday #8
Well, not just Biden's DOJ. Sorry to burst the bubble you'd prefer to exist in, but it is true. RockRaven Wednesday #10
I see you as rather a brilliant person so this reply surprises me. AZJonnie Wednesday #11
I believe my last post failed to communicate to you what I intended. RockRaven Wednesday #18
Thanks for clarification. This is exactly the sort of cogent argument I always see from RockRaven AZJonnie 22 hrs ago #33
I don't think BeerBarrelPolka 22 hrs ago #34
yeah OK Skittles Wednesday #12
Because Biden wanted to protect others. Sadly. Bluesaph 23 hrs ago #32
I am one KentuckyWoman Wednesday #19
The White House released the name Abnredleg Wednesday #2
Well, that's very convenient since Giuffre REPEATEDLY exonerated Trump of any wrongdoing including in her book AZJonnie Wednesday #7
do you admit that Trump is one vile, disgusting POS??? Skittles Wednesday #13
Do you not see what I post, all day and every day? I mean obviously not everything, but generally? AZJonnie Wednesday #15
The premise of this post is wrong, from what I've read. The ID is known, from multiple RockRaven Wednesday #5
See my post #7 above this one. AZJonnie Wednesday #9
and how do you know she wasn't under duress? Skittles Wednesday #14
Because it was in her 2025 memoir that she just wrote, and her estate released posthumously AZJonnie Wednesday #17
speak for yourself Skittles Wednesday #21
We are making the same point. Yes, she is gone, having exonerated him (to her knowledge) on her way out. AZJonnie Wednesday #23
It doesn't matter Boo1 Wednesday #16
I want to address this part of your post Quiet Em Wednesday #20
I get what you mean, but I was asked why *I* am so interested in the case near the top of the thread. AZJonnie Wednesday #24
You are not annoying me and no apology is required. Disaffected Wednesday #22
From what I've read, the "VICTIM" redaction was in the version of the files supplied by the estate, Emrys Wednesday #25
Not suggesting anyone tried to warp the facts, but mistakes can be made on a task like that AZJonnie Wednesday #26
It MIGHT be an inside joke, but to borrow the words of a past US president, "I want to hear him deny it." Emrys Wednesday #28
I've said this like 20 times in various posts over months but not everyone see everything, so again lol AZJonnie Yesterday #29
"the 'complete release of DoJ files' for any case is not a normal occurrence" Emrys Yesterday #30
Setting aside the details of our particular definitions of "great lengths", the point is we agree AZJonnie Yesterday #31
AZJohnny I agree with you that it wasn't Virginia Roberts Giuffre that Chump met at Epstein's house FakeNoose Wednesday #27
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