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AZJonnie

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23. We are making the same point. Yes, she is gone, having exonerated him (to her knowledge) on her way out.

Wed Nov 12, 2025, 08:58 PM

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This is why I am saying (Victim) = Virginia Guiffre is the MOST desirable spin for the Regime. She can't say they're lying, obviously.

I am *specifically* talking about this email, okay? Just because he was a gentleman to Guiffre, that doesn't mean he's totally off the hook, but it means this email doesn't hurt Trump. Making (Victim) = VG saves his ass (for this email). This becomes non-incriminating.

OTOH, if (Victim) is actually (Cop), then he's in a ton of shit. He "didn't bark", even when given a golden opportunity. HE covered for Epstein. *I* think that's exactly what this email proves.

Please don't misread my intent and yell at me I am 100% with you on all you said. But the one thing I vary slightly on is that I think Trump would absolutely try to hide this shit solely because there's solid proof he knew, instead of stopping him, he covered for Epstein. Not that this is ALL he did wrong re: Epstein, but it would be enough, and I keep that idea in mind. That is pretty bad shit, on it's own. No?

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Sorry to annoy everyone yet again, but much about that Epstein email hangs on the accuracy of one word [View all] AZJonnie Wednesday OP

you seem very vested in all of this Skittles Wednesday #1

to be honest every day I see dozens here incredibly vested in this. WarGamer Wednesday #3

I have two answers for you AZJonnie Wednesday #4

Is that email in question from the estate? OneGrassRoot Wednesday #6

I cannot possibly imagine that the DoJ does/did not have everything the Estate has in this regard, long ago AZJonnie Wednesday #8

Well, not just Biden's DOJ. Sorry to burst the bubble you'd prefer to exist in, but it is true. RockRaven Wednesday #10

I see you as rather a brilliant person so this reply surprises me. AZJonnie Wednesday #11

I believe my last post failed to communicate to you what I intended. RockRaven Wednesday #18

Thanks for clarification. This is exactly the sort of cogent argument I always see from RockRaven AZJonnie Yesterday #33

I don't think BeerBarrelPolka Yesterday #34

yeah OK Skittles Wednesday #12

Because Biden wanted to protect others. Sadly. Bluesaph Yesterday #32

I am one KentuckyWoman Wednesday #19

The White House released the name Abnredleg Wednesday #2

Well, that's very convenient since Giuffre REPEATEDLY exonerated Trump of any wrongdoing including in her book AZJonnie Wednesday #7

do you admit that Trump is one vile, disgusting POS??? Skittles Wednesday #13

Do you not see what I post, all day and every day? I mean obviously not everything, but generally? AZJonnie Wednesday #15

The premise of this post is wrong, from what I've read. The ID is known, from multiple RockRaven Wednesday #5

See my post #7 above this one. AZJonnie Wednesday #9

and how do you know she wasn't under duress? Skittles Wednesday #14

Because it was in her 2025 memoir that she just wrote, and her estate released posthumously AZJonnie Wednesday #17

speak for yourself Skittles Wednesday #21

We are making the same point. Yes, she is gone, having exonerated him (to her knowledge) on her way out. AZJonnie Wednesday #23

It doesn't matter Boo1 Wednesday #16

I want to address this part of your post Quiet Em Wednesday #20

I get what you mean, but I was asked why *I* am so interested in the case near the top of the thread. AZJonnie Wednesday #24

You are not annoying me and no apology is required. Disaffected Wednesday #22

From what I've read, the "VICTIM" redaction was in the version of the files supplied by the estate, Emrys Wednesday #25

Not suggesting anyone tried to warp the facts, but mistakes can be made on a task like that AZJonnie Wednesday #26

It MIGHT be an inside joke, but to borrow the words of a past US president, "I want to hear him deny it." Emrys Wednesday #28

I've said this like 20 times in various posts over months but not everyone see everything, so again lol AZJonnie Yesterday #29

"the 'complete release of DoJ files' for any case is not a normal occurrence" Emrys Yesterday #30

Setting aside the details of our particular definitions of "great lengths", the point is we agree AZJonnie Yesterday #31

AZJohnny I agree with you that it wasn't Virginia Roberts Giuffre that Chump met at Epstein's house FakeNoose Wednesday #27