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Jack Valentino

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33. It was NOT that 'obvious'---- there are quite a few swing state and swing district Republicans

Wed Nov 12, 2025, 11:26 PM

9 hrs ago

who might have seen reason on this issue--- and they still might----

but the fight over this issue has made it very clear to the American people
where Republicans stand--- and for that I think it was worth it!

"Republicans are for Trump, Democrats are for YOU!"

(and only 7 congressional Democrats voted to "cave",
as opposed to over two hundred who haven't... Senate + House)

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People wanting the shutdown to continue into the holidays - who has 40 plus days of funding in reserve to survive on? [View all] bigtree 10 hrs ago OP

Thune would have jettisoned the filibuster. pat_k 10 hrs ago #1

40 damn days bigtree 10 hrs ago #3

I stand by my analysis. pat_k 10 hrs ago #6

capitulation was just around the corner? bigtree 10 hrs ago #11

People already ARE at the mercy of the Felon. pat_k 10 hrs ago #12

the federal workers bigtree 10 hrs ago #13

You think this is some sort of "politics as usual"? pat_k 10 hrs ago #16

did you ask those families to sacrifice their livelihoods for your politics? bigtree 9 hrs ago #19

The Senate Democrats took the ONLY shot they had at preventing the deaths of tens of thousands. pat_k 9 hrs ago #30

they needed to end their politics over the holidays bigtree 8 hrs ago #54

repukes need to end their cruelty, PERIOD Skittles 7 hrs ago #67

You see it as politics. To me, it was a moral imperative. pat_k 1 hr ago #73

Absolutely excellent BeerBarrelPolka 1 hr ago #75

Get off the damn high horse FHRRK 8 hrs ago #51

high horse bigtree 8 hrs ago #56

You know why you stand by your analysis? FHRRK 8 hrs ago #45

Great post. Scrivener7 1 hr ago #71

Its kicking the can down the road in the wrong direction. CentralMass 10 hrs ago #2

THE HUMANS IN THE FUCKING MIDDLE bigtree 10 hrs ago #5

The worst is yet to come. The GOP will give up nothing. CentralMass 10 hrs ago #8

And it'll be worse next time. They'll take away more. Scrivener7 1 hr ago #72

No one here wanted people to suffer! leftstreet 10 hrs ago #4

so helpless to do a thing for them bigtree 10 hrs ago #7

WHY the HELL did the shutdown occur? choie 9 hrs ago #22

We gained over a month of making the public aware that the repubs supported ending the subsidies onenote 8 hrs ago #57

the fault lies with REPUBLICANS Skittles 9 hrs ago #24

well they weren't Skittles 10 hrs ago #9

You're not wrong there n/t leftstreet 10 hrs ago #10

HOW did "SNAP beneficiaries got a raise" ??? Jack Valentino 10 hrs ago #14

the benefit amount was increased in the agreement bigtree 10 hrs ago #15

YOU need to 'keep up', my friend--- Jack Valentino 10 hrs ago #18

you're right, it's an increase in the contingency payment bigtree 9 hrs ago #20

I agree with much of what you said, people can't live without a paycheck forever... Jack Valentino 9 hrs ago #25

it was cheeky bigtree 8 hrs ago #39

It's all good.... I'm usually worse myself, but I like you :) Jack Valentino 8 hrs ago #44

thank you Skittles 9 hrs ago #26

I do think the state of Michigan under Whitmer acted much more quickly, Jack Valentino 9 hrs ago #31

oh absolutely Skittles 9 hrs ago #34

AND utilizes the 'Trump Justice' department to fight against court orders Jack Valentino 9 hrs ago #36

It didn't increase the funding for SNAP, but it guaranteed it through September 2026 onenote 8 hrs ago #58

That SNAP benefits will be funded through 9-26 is very good--- Jack Valentino 8 hrs ago #61

We also have the opportunity to raise the issue before people lose their insurance. onenote 8 hrs ago #63

Thank you. This is pure propaganda to make us feel like we won something. choie 9 hrs ago #23

They 'got a raise' back to the normal amount, Jack Valentino 9 hrs ago #29

when I dove into it I got the actual farce bigtree 8 hrs ago #41

People who are bellyaching about Democrats "caving" have tunnel vision valleyrogue 10 hrs ago #17

Then provide one reason why the Democrats pushed for the ACA subsidies when choie 9 hrs ago #27

It was NOT that 'obvious'---- there are quite a few swing state and swing district Republicans Jack Valentino 9 hrs ago #33

To a certain extent it was political theater. Or more aptly, political education onenote 8 hrs ago #60

I think it did a good job showing which party cares about people who need assistance Skittles 8 hrs ago #64

By your logic, there should have been no shutdown at all Sympthsical 9 hrs ago #21

thank you Skittles 9 hrs ago #28

ABSOLUTELY. Jack Valentino 8 hrs ago #38

Thank you. Joinfortmill 9 hrs ago #32

The historical record is,quite clear.... reACTIONary 9 hrs ago #35

So do you think we shouldn't have tried? Jack Valentino 8 hrs ago #42

Nancy Pelosi got concessions from Trump iemanja 8 hrs ago #55

We don't have to govern. mr715 8 hrs ago #37

bumper sticker? bigtree 8 hrs ago #43

I give no approval to the funding of what Trump is doing. mr715 8 hrs ago #50

"What kind of party allows that to go into Thanksgiving and the rest, leaving them under the knife of the republicans" Takket 8 hrs ago #40

we had the power to remove those workers and their families out of the way of our politics bigtree 8 hrs ago #47

Ah yes, because we were the ones doing this. mr715 8 hrs ago #52

that's specious bigtree 8 hrs ago #59

And what about the 42 million folks not getting SNAP payments? onenote 8 hrs ago #62

Don't forget to add in the tens of millions of people on SNAP benefits. W_HAMILTON 7 hrs ago #66

Thank you for posting this. Phoenix61 8 hrs ago #46

+1 Agreed. onenote 8 hrs ago #48

Give it up. You got your way. iemanja 8 hrs ago #49

Yep seems fair angrychair 8 hrs ago #53

Well... those people were going to get their snap benefits anyway. Scrivener7 1 hr ago #76

I Believe The Counter-Argument Would Be: Then Why Start?.... ColoringFool 7 hrs ago #65

did you actually read the message Skittles 4 hrs ago #70

Thank you, bigtree. summer_in_TX 7 hrs ago #68

The problem is that the Dem senators did not excerise unity. Intractable 5 hrs ago #69

It wasn't the democrats who shutdown the government. Emile 1 hr ago #74

I'm dubious that any of that will happen Samael13 1 hr ago #77