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Takket

(23,349 posts)
40. "What kind of party allows that to go into Thanksgiving and the rest, leaving them under the knife of the republicans"
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 11:55 PM
3 hrs ago

you make that statement like it is the only way to avoid people being hurt by this nonsense. That's simply not true.

this is the trolley car problem. thousands of federal workers on one track and millions of people getting ACA subsidies on the other.

Subsidies people need to get treatment for cancer, and any other type of medical care, that they cannot afford now. At least the federal workers, despite being treated like absolute shit, had a light at the end of the tunnel of a paycheck at the end. All the millions of of people who lost the subsides are getting shit sandwich for thanksgiving.

But pick a track because there was no situation here where someone isn't getting run over by the trolley, so there is no moral high ground to be gained by HOPING you protected Federal workers, who drumpf might just leave fired anyway, because who's going to arrest him, Pam Bondi???????

The Democrats that voted yes, and those that voted no only because they knew it would pass, betrayed their party and their voters. We're supposed to be supporting Democrats on this board, and THIS AIN'T IT.

39 out of 47 Senators and 206 out of 213 Dems in the house opposed this (or at least voted against it...). That's 94.2% of our elected members of Congress.

The Democratic Party did NOT want this.

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Thune would have jettisoned the filibuster. pat_k 5 hrs ago #1
40 damn days bigtree 5 hrs ago #3
I stand by my analysis. pat_k 5 hrs ago #6
capitulation was just around the corner? bigtree 5 hrs ago #11
People already ARE at the mercy of the Felon. pat_k 4 hrs ago #12
the federal workers bigtree 4 hrs ago #13
You think this is some sort of "politics as usual"? pat_k 4 hrs ago #16
did you ask those families to sacrifice their livelihoods for your politics? bigtree 4 hrs ago #19
The Senate Democrats took the ONLY shot they had at preventing the deaths of tens of thousands. pat_k 4 hrs ago #30
they needed to end their politics over the holidays bigtree 3 hrs ago #54
repukes need to end their cruelty, PERIOD Skittles 2 hrs ago #67
Get off the damn high horse FHRRK 3 hrs ago #51
high horse bigtree 2 hrs ago #56
You know why you stand by your analysis? FHRRK 3 hrs ago #45
Its kicking the can down the road in the wrong direction. CentralMass 5 hrs ago #2
THE HUMANS IN THE FUCKING MIDDLE bigtree 5 hrs ago #5
The worst is yet to come. The GOP will give up nothing. CentralMass 5 hrs ago #8
No one here wanted people to suffer! leftstreet 5 hrs ago #4
so helpless to do a thing for them bigtree 5 hrs ago #7
WHY the HELL did the shutdown occur? choie 4 hrs ago #22
We gained over a month of making the public aware that the repubs supported ending the subsidies onenote 2 hrs ago #57
the fault lies with REPUBLICANS Skittles 4 hrs ago #24
well they weren't Skittles 5 hrs ago #9
You're not wrong there n/t leftstreet 5 hrs ago #10
HOW did "SNAP beneficiaries got a raise" ??? Jack Valentino 4 hrs ago #14
the benefit amount was increased in the agreement bigtree 4 hrs ago #15
YOU need to 'keep up', my friend--- Jack Valentino 4 hrs ago #18
you're right, it's an increase in the contingency payment bigtree 4 hrs ago #20
I agree with much of what you said, people can't live without a paycheck forever... Jack Valentino 4 hrs ago #25
it was cheeky bigtree 3 hrs ago #39
It's all good.... I'm usually worse myself, but I like you :) Jack Valentino 3 hrs ago #44
thank you Skittles 4 hrs ago #26
I do think the state of Michigan under Whitmer acted much more quickly, Jack Valentino 4 hrs ago #31
oh absolutely Skittles 3 hrs ago #34
AND utilizes the 'Trump Justice' department to fight against court orders Jack Valentino 3 hrs ago #36
It didn't increase the funding for SNAP, but it guaranteed it through September 2026 onenote 2 hrs ago #58
That SNAP benefits will be funded through 9-26 is very good--- Jack Valentino 2 hrs ago #61
We also have the opportunity to raise the issue before people lose their insurance. onenote 2 hrs ago #63
Thank you. This is pure propaganda to make us feel like we won something. choie 4 hrs ago #23
They 'got a raise' back to the normal amount, Jack Valentino 4 hrs ago #29
when I dove into it I got the actual farce bigtree 3 hrs ago #41
People who are bellyaching about Democrats "caving" have tunnel vision valleyrogue 4 hrs ago #17
Then provide one reason why the Democrats pushed for the ACA subsidies when choie 4 hrs ago #27
It was NOT that 'obvious'---- there are quite a few swing state and swing district Republicans Jack Valentino 3 hrs ago #33
To a certain extent it was political theater. Or more aptly, political education onenote 2 hrs ago #60
I think it did a good job showing which party cares about people who need assistance Skittles 2 hrs ago #64
By your logic, there should have been no shutdown at all Sympthsical 4 hrs ago #21
thank you Skittles 4 hrs ago #28
ABSOLUTELY. Jack Valentino 3 hrs ago #38
Thank you. Joinfortmill 3 hrs ago #32
The historical record is,quite clear.... reACTIONary 3 hrs ago #35
So do you think we shouldn't have tried? Jack Valentino 3 hrs ago #42
Nancy Pelosi got concessions from Trump iemanja 2 hrs ago #55
We don't have to govern. mr715 3 hrs ago #37
bumper sticker? bigtree 3 hrs ago #43
I give no approval to the funding of what Trump is doing. mr715 3 hrs ago #50
"What kind of party allows that to go into Thanksgiving and the rest, leaving them under the knife of the republicans" Takket 3 hrs ago #40
we had the power to remove those workers and their families out of the way of our politics bigtree 3 hrs ago #47
Ah yes, because we were the ones doing this. mr715 3 hrs ago #52
that's specious bigtree 2 hrs ago #59
And what about the 42 million folks not getting SNAP payments? onenote 2 hrs ago #62
Don't forget to add in the tens of millions of people on SNAP benefits. W_HAMILTON 2 hrs ago #66
Thank you for posting this. Phoenix61 3 hrs ago #46
+1 Agreed. onenote 3 hrs ago #48
Give it up. You got your way. iemanja 3 hrs ago #49
Yep seems fair angrychair 3 hrs ago #53
I Believe The Counter-Argument Would Be: Then Why Start?.... ColoringFool 2 hrs ago #65
Thank you, bigtree. summer_in_TX 1 hr ago #68
The problem is that the Dem senators did not excerise unity. Intractable 27 min ago #69
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