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bigtree

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54. they needed to end their politics over the holidays

Thu Nov 13, 2025, 12:12 AM

17 hrs ago

...because they were knowingly hurting people.

I'm fine with the fact that it was my party that acted. I gave this a chance, I didn't balk or moan. It's been fucking 40 days. Enough.

Look how long it's taking the payments to start up. Thanksgiving's right around the corner.

If we're going to start sacrificing Americans for our politics it needs to be people who can afford it or deserve that callousness.

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People wanting the shutdown to continue into the holidays - who has 40 plus days of funding in reserve to survive on? [View all] bigtree 19 hrs ago OP

Thune would have jettisoned the filibuster. pat_k 19 hrs ago #1

40 damn days bigtree 19 hrs ago #3

I stand by my analysis. pat_k 19 hrs ago #6

capitulation was just around the corner? bigtree 19 hrs ago #11

People already ARE at the mercy of the Felon. pat_k 19 hrs ago #12

the federal workers bigtree 18 hrs ago #13

You think this is some sort of "politics as usual"? pat_k 18 hrs ago #16

did you ask those families to sacrifice their livelihoods for your politics? bigtree 18 hrs ago #19

The Senate Democrats took the ONLY shot they had at preventing the deaths of tens of thousands. pat_k 18 hrs ago #30

they needed to end their politics over the holidays bigtree 17 hrs ago #54

repukes need to end their cruelty, PERIOD Skittles 16 hrs ago #67

You see it as politics. To me, it was a moral imperative. pat_k 10 hrs ago #73

Absolutely excellent BeerBarrelPolka 10 hrs ago #75

Are you willing Mossfern 8 hrs ago #81

Post 73 pat_k 7 hrs ago #85

That doesn't answer my quesiton to you Mossfern 6 hrs ago #96

The answer is that moral failure has worse consequences. pat_k 6 hrs ago #98

Get off the damn high horse FHRRK 17 hrs ago #51

high horse bigtree 17 hrs ago #56

You know why you stand by your analysis? FHRRK 17 hrs ago #45

Great post. Scrivener7 10 hrs ago #71

Yep and we're going to do this again in 3 months !!! uponit7771 6 hrs ago #91

BUT in 3 months mr715 3 hrs ago #104

Nope. SNAP is now funded until Sept 2026 NickB79 1 hr ago #119

Agree 100% mr715 3 hrs ago #103

Spot on! (with one quibble) pat_k 2 hrs ago #110

Its kicking the can down the road in the wrong direction. CentralMass 19 hrs ago #2

THE HUMANS IN THE FUCKING MIDDLE bigtree 19 hrs ago #5

The worst is yet to come. The GOP will give up nothing. CentralMass 19 hrs ago #8

RIGHT!!! No bully says I'll be nicer next time if you give up now uponit7771 6 hrs ago #94

With preparation more than 3 months but that didn't happen, Dem leadership did no prep work for uponit7771 6 hrs ago #93

What they did mr715 2 hrs ago #109

And it'll be worse next time. They'll take away more. Scrivener7 10 hrs ago #72

No one here wanted people to suffer! leftstreet 19 hrs ago #4

so helpless to do a thing for them bigtree 19 hrs ago #7

WHY the HELL did the shutdown occur? choie 18 hrs ago #22

We gained over a month of making the public aware that the repubs supported ending the subsidies onenote 17 hrs ago #57

the fault lies with REPUBLICANS Skittles 18 hrs ago #24

well they weren't Skittles 19 hrs ago #9

You're not wrong there n/t leftstreet 19 hrs ago #10

But they weren't about to cave. Mossfern 2 hrs ago #115

We'll never know n/t leftstreet 2 hrs ago #116

What behavior, in consideration Mossfern 1 hr ago #117

They didn't wanna kill the filibuster leftstreet 1 hr ago #118

HOW did "SNAP beneficiaries got a raise" ??? Jack Valentino 18 hrs ago #14

the benefit amount was increased in the agreement bigtree 18 hrs ago #15

YOU need to 'keep up', my friend--- Jack Valentino 18 hrs ago #18

you're right, it's an increase in the contingency payment bigtree 18 hrs ago #20

I agree with much of what you said, people can't live without a paycheck forever... Jack Valentino 18 hrs ago #25

it was cheeky bigtree 17 hrs ago #39

It's all good.... I'm usually worse myself, but I like you :) Jack Valentino 17 hrs ago #44

thank you Skittles 18 hrs ago #26

I do think the state of Michigan under Whitmer acted much more quickly, Jack Valentino 18 hrs ago #31

oh absolutely Skittles 17 hrs ago #34

AND utilizes the 'Trump Justice' department to fight against court orders Jack Valentino 17 hrs ago #36

It didn't increase the funding for SNAP, but it guaranteed it through September 2026 onenote 17 hrs ago #58

That SNAP benefits will be funded through 9-26 is very good--- Jack Valentino 16 hrs ago #61

We also have the opportunity to raise the issue before people lose their insurance. onenote 16 hrs ago #63

Thank you. This is pure propaganda to make us feel like we won something. choie 18 hrs ago #23

They 'got a raise' back to the normal amount, Jack Valentino 18 hrs ago #29

when I dove into it I got the actual farce bigtree 17 hrs ago #41

People who are bellyaching about Democrats "caving" have tunnel vision valleyrogue 18 hrs ago #17

Then provide one reason why the Democrats pushed for the ACA subsidies when choie 18 hrs ago #27

It was NOT that 'obvious'---- there are quite a few swing state and swing district Republicans Jack Valentino 18 hrs ago #33

To a certain extent it was political theater. Or more aptly, political education onenote 16 hrs ago #60

I think it did a good job showing which party cares about people who need assistance Skittles 16 hrs ago #64

I've experienced true destitution Samael13 8 hrs ago #78

Furthermore it also accomplishes something the republicans cant on their own Samael13 8 hrs ago #82

By your logic, there should have been no shutdown at all Sympthsical 18 hrs ago #21

thank you Skittles 18 hrs ago #28

ABSOLUTELY. Jack Valentino 17 hrs ago #38

Thank you. Joinfortmill 18 hrs ago #32

The historical record is,quite clear.... reACTIONary 17 hrs ago #35

So do you think we shouldn't have tried? Jack Valentino 17 hrs ago #42

Whether it was worth it or not... reACTIONary 7 hrs ago #88

Nancy Pelosi got concessions from Trump iemanja 17 hrs ago #55

As you note, none of the concessions... reACTIONary 6 hrs ago #89

Speaker Pelosi would disagree with this assessment nt mr715 2 hrs ago #113

We don't have to govern. mr715 17 hrs ago #37

bumper sticker? bigtree 17 hrs ago #43

I give no approval to the funding of what Trump is doing. mr715 17 hrs ago #50

"What kind of party allows that to go into Thanksgiving and the rest, leaving them under the knife of the republicans" Takket 17 hrs ago #40

we had the power to remove those workers and their families out of the way of our politics bigtree 17 hrs ago #47

Ah yes, because we were the ones doing this. mr715 17 hrs ago #52

that's specious bigtree 17 hrs ago #59

Political Crutches mr715 2 hrs ago #107

You can't settle the trolley car problem this way. . . Stargleamer 3 hrs ago #102

And what about the 42 million folks not getting SNAP payments? onenote 16 hrs ago #62

Don't forget to add in the tens of millions of people on SNAP benefits. W_HAMILTON 16 hrs ago #66

This needs to be its own OP mcar 8 hrs ago #80

Thank you for posting this. Phoenix61 17 hrs ago #46

+1 Agreed. onenote 17 hrs ago #48

Give it up. You got your way. iemanja 17 hrs ago #49

Great post! hamsterjill 7 hrs ago #83

Thank you. iemanja 7 hrs ago #87

Yep seems fair angrychair 17 hrs ago #53

Well... those people were going to get their snap benefits anyway. Scrivener7 10 hrs ago #76

Right on. nt mr715 2 hrs ago #114

I Believe The Counter-Argument Would Be: Then Why Start?.... ColoringFool 16 hrs ago #65

did you actually read the message Skittles 13 hrs ago #70

Thank you, bigtree. summer_in_TX 15 hrs ago #68

The problem is that the Dem senators did not excerise unity. Intractable 14 hrs ago #69

Calculating who and when and where. mr715 3 hrs ago #105

It wasn't the democrats who shutdown the government. Emile 10 hrs ago #74

But we're "cruel" nt mr715 2 hrs ago #108

Amazing, it's all our fault now. Emile 2 hrs ago #111

"Won't someone PLEASE think of the children!!" nt mr715 2 hrs ago #112

I'm dubious that any of that will happen Samael13 10 hrs ago #77

There will be MORE PAIN from lack of healthcare.... BUT..... Martin Eden 8 hrs ago #79

I agree with your analysis, but I wonder why.... reACTIONary 6 hrs ago #92

You are correct. Ending the premium tax credits won't end the ACA Martin Eden 6 hrs ago #99

That is true, it is one step.... reACTIONary 4 hrs ago #100

So just give them what they want all the time then. BlueTsunami2018 7 hrs ago #84

MAGA voters have not felt enough pain yet. nt Hotler 7 hrs ago #86

I blame this solely on the GOP Torchlight 6 hrs ago #90

Join the Mass Blackout! BlueWavePsych 6 hrs ago #95

No one wanted the shutdown to continue into the holidays. Ms. Toad 6 hrs ago #97

I literally read a poster with 50,000+ posts say it should have gone a YEAR NickB79 1 hr ago #120

Thank you. MorbidButterflyTat 4 hrs ago #101

Thank you. I believe that the point was made, and there was no point to additional suffereing. NNadir 3 hrs ago #106