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55. Nancy Pelosi got concessions from Trump

Thu Nov 13, 2025, 12:18 AM

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repeatedly. And like the OP, yours is an argument for why the Democrats should never have authorized the shutdown in the first place, not for conceding to the GOP now. None of the concessions are concessions at all. They are already in US law.

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People wanting the shutdown to continue into the holidays - who has 40 plus days of funding in reserve to survive on? [View all] bigtree 12 hrs ago OP

Thune would have jettisoned the filibuster. pat_k 12 hrs ago #1

40 damn days bigtree 12 hrs ago #3

I stand by my analysis. pat_k 12 hrs ago #6

capitulation was just around the corner? bigtree 12 hrs ago #11

People already ARE at the mercy of the Felon. pat_k 12 hrs ago #12

the federal workers bigtree 12 hrs ago #13

You think this is some sort of "politics as usual"? pat_k 11 hrs ago #16

did you ask those families to sacrifice their livelihoods for your politics? bigtree 11 hrs ago #19

The Senate Democrats took the ONLY shot they had at preventing the deaths of tens of thousands. pat_k 11 hrs ago #30

they needed to end their politics over the holidays bigtree 10 hrs ago #54

repukes need to end their cruelty, PERIOD Skittles 9 hrs ago #67

You see it as politics. To me, it was a moral imperative. pat_k 3 hrs ago #73

Absolutely excellent BeerBarrelPolka 3 hrs ago #75

Are you willing Mossfern 1 hr ago #81

Post 73 pat_k 52 min ago #85

Get off the damn high horse FHRRK 10 hrs ago #51

high horse bigtree 10 hrs ago #56

You know why you stand by your analysis? FHRRK 10 hrs ago #45

Great post. Scrivener7 3 hrs ago #71

Its kicking the can down the road in the wrong direction. CentralMass 12 hrs ago #2

THE HUMANS IN THE FUCKING MIDDLE bigtree 12 hrs ago #5

The worst is yet to come. The GOP will give up nothing. CentralMass 12 hrs ago #8

And it'll be worse next time. They'll take away more. Scrivener7 3 hrs ago #72

No one here wanted people to suffer! leftstreet 12 hrs ago #4

so helpless to do a thing for them bigtree 12 hrs ago #7

WHY the HELL did the shutdown occur? choie 11 hrs ago #22

We gained over a month of making the public aware that the repubs supported ending the subsidies onenote 10 hrs ago #57

the fault lies with REPUBLICANS Skittles 11 hrs ago #24

well they weren't Skittles 12 hrs ago #9

You're not wrong there n/t leftstreet 12 hrs ago #10

HOW did "SNAP beneficiaries got a raise" ??? Jack Valentino 12 hrs ago #14

the benefit amount was increased in the agreement bigtree 12 hrs ago #15

YOU need to 'keep up', my friend--- Jack Valentino 11 hrs ago #18

you're right, it's an increase in the contingency payment bigtree 11 hrs ago #20

I agree with much of what you said, people can't live without a paycheck forever... Jack Valentino 11 hrs ago #25

it was cheeky bigtree 10 hrs ago #39

It's all good.... I'm usually worse myself, but I like you :) Jack Valentino 10 hrs ago #44

thank you Skittles 11 hrs ago #26

I do think the state of Michigan under Whitmer acted much more quickly, Jack Valentino 11 hrs ago #31

oh absolutely Skittles 11 hrs ago #34

AND utilizes the 'Trump Justice' department to fight against court orders Jack Valentino 10 hrs ago #36

It didn't increase the funding for SNAP, but it guaranteed it through September 2026 onenote 10 hrs ago #58

That SNAP benefits will be funded through 9-26 is very good--- Jack Valentino 10 hrs ago #61

We also have the opportunity to raise the issue before people lose their insurance. onenote 10 hrs ago #63

Thank you. This is pure propaganda to make us feel like we won something. choie 11 hrs ago #23

They 'got a raise' back to the normal amount, Jack Valentino 11 hrs ago #29

when I dove into it I got the actual farce bigtree 10 hrs ago #41

People who are bellyaching about Democrats "caving" have tunnel vision valleyrogue 11 hrs ago #17

Then provide one reason why the Democrats pushed for the ACA subsidies when choie 11 hrs ago #27

It was NOT that 'obvious'---- there are quite a few swing state and swing district Republicans Jack Valentino 11 hrs ago #33

To a certain extent it was political theater. Or more aptly, political education onenote 10 hrs ago #60

I think it did a good job showing which party cares about people who need assistance Skittles 9 hrs ago #64

I've experienced true destitution Samael13 1 hr ago #78

Furthermore it also accomplishes something the republicans cant on their own Samael13 1 hr ago #82

By your logic, there should have been no shutdown at all Sympthsical 11 hrs ago #21

thank you Skittles 11 hrs ago #28

ABSOLUTELY. Jack Valentino 10 hrs ago #38

Thank you. Joinfortmill 11 hrs ago #32

The historical record is,quite clear.... reACTIONary 10 hrs ago #35

So do you think we shouldn't have tried? Jack Valentino 10 hrs ago #42

Whether it was worth it or not... reACTIONary 20 min ago #88

Nancy Pelosi got concessions from Trump iemanja 10 hrs ago #55

As you note, none of the concessions... reACTIONary 6 min ago #89

We don't have to govern. mr715 10 hrs ago #37

bumper sticker? bigtree 10 hrs ago #43

I give no approval to the funding of what Trump is doing. mr715 10 hrs ago #50

"What kind of party allows that to go into Thanksgiving and the rest, leaving them under the knife of the republicans" Takket 10 hrs ago #40

we had the power to remove those workers and their families out of the way of our politics bigtree 10 hrs ago #47

Ah yes, because we were the ones doing this. mr715 10 hrs ago #52

that's specious bigtree 10 hrs ago #59

And what about the 42 million folks not getting SNAP payments? onenote 10 hrs ago #62

Don't forget to add in the tens of millions of people on SNAP benefits. W_HAMILTON 9 hrs ago #66

This needs to be its own OP mcar 1 hr ago #80

Thank you for posting this. Phoenix61 10 hrs ago #46

+1 Agreed. onenote 10 hrs ago #48

Give it up. You got your way. iemanja 10 hrs ago #49

Great post! hamsterjill 1 hr ago #83

Thank you. iemanja 24 min ago #87

Yep seems fair angrychair 10 hrs ago #53

Well... those people were going to get their snap benefits anyway. Scrivener7 3 hrs ago #76

I Believe The Counter-Argument Would Be: Then Why Start?.... ColoringFool 9 hrs ago #65

did you actually read the message Skittles 6 hrs ago #70

Thank you, bigtree. summer_in_TX 9 hrs ago #68

The problem is that the Dem senators did not excerise unity. Intractable 7 hrs ago #69

It wasn't the democrats who shutdown the government. Emile 3 hrs ago #74

I'm dubious that any of that will happen Samael13 3 hrs ago #77

There will be MORE PAIN from lack of healthcare.... BUT..... Martin Eden 1 hr ago #79

So just give them what they want all the time then. BlueTsunami2018 1 hr ago #84

MAGA voters have not felt enough pain yet. nt Hotler 32 min ago #86

I blame this solely on the GOP Torchlight 31 sec ago #90