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AZJonnie

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Thu Nov 13, 2025, 04:40 AM Yesterday

I'm not sure who (Victim) in the email was, but I think the GQP's claim it was Virginia Guiffre is BS! [View all]

And here is why:

Here’s the relevant segment from her 2015 testimony, summarized and directly quoted from court records:

She recanted earlier public statements implying Trump was present with girls at Epstein’s.

She stated: “I do not believe [Trump] had any knowledge of Epstein’s misconduct with underage girls.”

She denied seeing Trump act inappropriately or with any of Epstein’s victims.


So far so good for the regime, right? This all makes saying " (Victim) was Virginia Guiffre" sound like a brilliant strategy for them. Like yeah, he spent hours with her there, but it was sunshine and rainbows! And conveniently for them, she cannot be contacted to confirm nor deny this assertion

Here's the problem for these liars, though, from the same deposition:

She confirmed: “I never saw him at any of Epstein’s properties.”

These excerpts are from her court deposition during the 2015 Maxwell defamation trial, and represent her sworn account on the record


She cannot simultaneously have "spent hours at (Epstein's) place with (Trump) ", per the email, yet "never see him at any of Epstein's properties" per her testimony. These are mutually exclusive.

I think House Republicans were quick to blurt out Guiffre's name because they knew she had said exonerating things about Trump under oath. Leadership probably knew of the existence of these emails a long time ago, and had this angle prepared if they did come out.

But I bet they thought we'd all miss the part where she also testified, explicitly, under oath, and even in the very same sitting, that she was NEVER WITH TRUMP at Epstein's place!

Which leads to the question ... WHO IS (VICTIM), in actuality? Perhaps someone who could still be spoken to? Someone who does NOT have such exonerating words to share about him?

This particular enquiring mind wants to know. Why are they LYING about who (Victim) is?
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Let me see if I understand this BeerBarrelPolka Yesterday #1
Fair question! Here's the magical answering machine to the rescue AZJonnie Yesterday #2
Well BeerBarrelPolka Yesterday #3
Anybody but Virginia Guiffre, I would agree AZJonnie Yesterday #4
We will never know definitively BeerBarrelPolka Yesterday #8
For some names, the co-author has knowledge TommyT139 Yesterday #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Volaris Yesterday #29
Did Trump pay her off? mgardener Yesterday #13
Because of the so-called sweetheart deal cobbled together for Epstein... Hugin Yesterday #5
Honestly BeerBarrelPolka Yesterday #6
Sadly, I tend to agree... Hugin Yesterday #9
That's true BeerBarrelPolka Yesterday #10
At least in today's news TommyT139 Yesterday #7
Could have been Katie Johnson jmbar2 Yesterday #12
It would really be nice if she were to come out again Callie1979 Yesterday #15
If she's still living BeerBarrelPolka Yesterday #16
If not it would seem we'd hear about it. She must've had family. Callie1979 Yesterday #21
Good points BeerBarrelPolka Yesterday #22
That case turned out to be extremely sketchy AZJonnie Yesterday #26
Its my understanding that the redaction was done by the Democrats to shield victims. Callie1979 Yesterday #14
There Were Innumerable Other Minors. Virginia Was The Known.... ColoringFool Yesterday #17
Yes, but the subject is this particular email and who (Victim) is in that context AZJonnie Yesterday #31
I'm Saying That Trump Defenders---Not You---Will Try To Use This..... ColoringFool 8 hrs ago #36
Sounds serious Torchlight 4 hrs ago #37
Wasn't Giuffre stationed at Trump's property until Epstein "stole" her? live love laugh Yesterday #18
That's my recollection. Something about her dad working at MALago in allegorical oracle Yesterday #20
Trumps full of it, of course, he didn't care about a towel girl going to work for Epstein AZJonnie Yesterday #30
The GOP released the unredacted document with Giuffre's name Prairie Gates Yesterday #19
Indeed - as the BBC said: muriel_volestrangler Yesterday #23
Hmmmm ... okay thanks for the update. I didn't know if the Democrats knew the name before redaction AZJonnie Yesterday #24
Yes, that's the question others are asking as well Prairie Gates Yesterday #25
Or she didn't testify about her interaction with trump Lifeafter70 Yesterday #27
I addressed that question upthread as it was the first question asked of my OP by BeerBarrelPolka AZJonnie Yesterday #28
I don't think it was about money Lifeafter70 Yesterday #33
I have an idea ... what if it was ALL the money from that suit, that Maxwell settled before actual court? AZJonnie Yesterday #34
I was referring to Virgina Giuffre Lifeafter70 23 hrs ago #35
Because apparently choie Yesterday #32
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