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pat_k

(12,437 posts)
73. You see it as politics. To me, it was a moral imperative.
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 07:05 AM
3 hrs ago

Refusing to be an accomplice to evil has much more than symbolic or political value. It is the right thing to to. It exposes the evil for what it is. It is, as I say, a moral imperative -- a matter of conscience.

If all of our electeds stood up and acted when a principle we hold sacred demands it, win or lose, come hell or high water, we wouldn't be in this national nightmare.

Objecting to the Florida electors.

Impeaching Bush and Cheney for war crimes.

Filibustering Alito.

The entire House Democratic Conference co-signing articles of impeachment against 47, and inviting their Republican colleagues to join them, every single day.

The entire Senate Democratic Conference pledging to convict, and inviting their Republican colleagues to join them in their pledge, every single day because the crimes are being committed in plain sight.

A joint declaration stating the grievances, usurpations, and abuses with simplicity and signed by every member of the House and Senate. A letter to the American people that puts the facts before a candid world once again.

Refusing to vote with the Republicans that are starving Americans to make sure the healthcare premiums of 40 million Americans more than doubles.

These are all acts of conscience. Moral imperatives. It is the FAILURE to do them that is "playing politics."

If our electeds were all saints, they would never play politics when a principle they claim to hold sacred is at stake.

But they are not saints. We have a lot of good people who do act when conscience demands. But we have too many who are political animals when it comes to matters of conscience. They may have well meaning intentions. They may think they are being practical. But their failures are wrongheaded and incredibly damaging to this nation and the people who live within its borders. And I believe it is up to us to help them see the light. Calling. Writing. Making appointments with staff. Calling on them to stand strong for sacred principles. To stop with the "can't win, so STFU."

Robert Arnold expresses my feelings far better than I can.

...
They'll tell us it was necessary;
that it was the responsible thing to do.
But responsibility without conviction
isn't leadership. It's survival.
And survival is not the same as purpose.

...



Defiance 'til Death
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Thune would have jettisoned the filibuster. pat_k 12 hrs ago #1
40 damn days bigtree 12 hrs ago #3
I stand by my analysis. pat_k 12 hrs ago #6
capitulation was just around the corner? bigtree 12 hrs ago #11
People already ARE at the mercy of the Felon. pat_k 12 hrs ago #12
the federal workers bigtree 12 hrs ago #13
You think this is some sort of "politics as usual"? pat_k 12 hrs ago #16
did you ask those families to sacrifice their livelihoods for your politics? bigtree 12 hrs ago #19
The Senate Democrats took the ONLY shot they had at preventing the deaths of tens of thousands. pat_k 11 hrs ago #30
they needed to end their politics over the holidays bigtree 10 hrs ago #54
repukes need to end their cruelty, PERIOD Skittles 9 hrs ago #67
You see it as politics. To me, it was a moral imperative. pat_k 3 hrs ago #73
Absolutely excellent BeerBarrelPolka 3 hrs ago #75
Are you willing Mossfern 1 hr ago #81
Post 73 pat_k 1 hr ago #85
That doesn't answer my quesiton to you Mossfern 1 min ago #96
Get off the damn high horse FHRRK 10 hrs ago #51
high horse bigtree 10 hrs ago #56
You know why you stand by your analysis? FHRRK 11 hrs ago #45
Great post. Scrivener7 4 hrs ago #71
Yep and we're going to do this again in 3 months !!! uponit7771 19 min ago #91
Its kicking the can down the road in the wrong direction. CentralMass 12 hrs ago #2
THE HUMANS IN THE FUCKING MIDDLE bigtree 12 hrs ago #5
The worst is yet to come. The GOP will give up nothing. CentralMass 12 hrs ago #8
RIGHT!!! No bully says I'll be nicer next time if you give up now uponit7771 16 min ago #94
With preparation more than 3 months but that didn't happen, Dem leadership did no prep work for uponit7771 17 min ago #93
And it'll be worse next time. They'll take away more. Scrivener7 4 hrs ago #72
No one here wanted people to suffer! leftstreet 12 hrs ago #4
so helpless to do a thing for them bigtree 12 hrs ago #7
WHY the HELL did the shutdown occur? choie 11 hrs ago #22
We gained over a month of making the public aware that the repubs supported ending the subsidies onenote 10 hrs ago #57
the fault lies with REPUBLICANS Skittles 11 hrs ago #24
well they weren't Skittles 12 hrs ago #9
You're not wrong there n/t leftstreet 12 hrs ago #10
HOW did "SNAP beneficiaries got a raise" ??? Jack Valentino 12 hrs ago #14
the benefit amount was increased in the agreement bigtree 12 hrs ago #15
YOU need to 'keep up', my friend--- Jack Valentino 12 hrs ago #18
you're right, it's an increase in the contingency payment bigtree 12 hrs ago #20
I agree with much of what you said, people can't live without a paycheck forever... Jack Valentino 11 hrs ago #25
it was cheeky bigtree 11 hrs ago #39
It's all good.... I'm usually worse myself, but I like you :) Jack Valentino 11 hrs ago #44
thank you Skittles 11 hrs ago #26
I do think the state of Michigan under Whitmer acted much more quickly, Jack Valentino 11 hrs ago #31
oh absolutely Skittles 11 hrs ago #34
AND utilizes the 'Trump Justice' department to fight against court orders Jack Valentino 11 hrs ago #36
It didn't increase the funding for SNAP, but it guaranteed it through September 2026 onenote 10 hrs ago #58
That SNAP benefits will be funded through 9-26 is very good--- Jack Valentino 10 hrs ago #61
We also have the opportunity to raise the issue before people lose their insurance. onenote 10 hrs ago #63
Thank you. This is pure propaganda to make us feel like we won something. choie 11 hrs ago #23
They 'got a raise' back to the normal amount, Jack Valentino 11 hrs ago #29
when I dove into it I got the actual farce bigtree 11 hrs ago #41
People who are bellyaching about Democrats "caving" have tunnel vision valleyrogue 12 hrs ago #17
Then provide one reason why the Democrats pushed for the ACA subsidies when choie 11 hrs ago #27
It was NOT that 'obvious'---- there are quite a few swing state and swing district Republicans Jack Valentino 11 hrs ago #33
To a certain extent it was political theater. Or more aptly, political education onenote 10 hrs ago #60
I think it did a good job showing which party cares about people who need assistance Skittles 10 hrs ago #64
I've experienced true destitution Samael13 2 hrs ago #78
Furthermore it also accomplishes something the republicans cant on their own Samael13 1 hr ago #82
By your logic, there should have been no shutdown at all Sympthsical 12 hrs ago #21
thank you Skittles 11 hrs ago #28
ABSOLUTELY. Jack Valentino 11 hrs ago #38
Thank you. Joinfortmill 11 hrs ago #32
The historical record is,quite clear.... reACTIONary 11 hrs ago #35
So do you think we shouldn't have tried? Jack Valentino 11 hrs ago #42
Whether it was worth it or not... reACTIONary 39 min ago #88
Nancy Pelosi got concessions from Trump iemanja 10 hrs ago #55
As you note, none of the concessions... reACTIONary 26 min ago #89
We don't have to govern. mr715 11 hrs ago #37
bumper sticker? bigtree 11 hrs ago #43
I give no approval to the funding of what Trump is doing. mr715 10 hrs ago #50
"What kind of party allows that to go into Thanksgiving and the rest, leaving them under the knife of the republicans" Takket 11 hrs ago #40
we had the power to remove those workers and their families out of the way of our politics bigtree 10 hrs ago #47
Ah yes, because we were the ones doing this. mr715 10 hrs ago #52
that's specious bigtree 10 hrs ago #59
And what about the 42 million folks not getting SNAP payments? onenote 10 hrs ago #62
Don't forget to add in the tens of millions of people on SNAP benefits. W_HAMILTON 9 hrs ago #66
This needs to be its own OP mcar 1 hr ago #80
Thank you for posting this. Phoenix61 10 hrs ago #46
+1 Agreed. onenote 10 hrs ago #48
Give it up. You got your way. iemanja 10 hrs ago #49
Great post! hamsterjill 1 hr ago #83
Thank you. iemanja 44 min ago #87
Yep seems fair angrychair 10 hrs ago #53
Well... those people were going to get their snap benefits anyway. Scrivener7 3 hrs ago #76
I Believe The Counter-Argument Would Be: Then Why Start?.... ColoringFool 10 hrs ago #65
did you actually read the message Skittles 7 hrs ago #70
Thank you, bigtree. summer_in_TX 9 hrs ago #68
The problem is that the Dem senators did not excerise unity. Intractable 8 hrs ago #69
It wasn't the democrats who shutdown the government. Emile 3 hrs ago #74
I'm dubious that any of that will happen Samael13 3 hrs ago #77
There will be MORE PAIN from lack of healthcare.... BUT..... Martin Eden 2 hrs ago #79
I agree with your analysis, but I wonder why.... reACTIONary 17 min ago #92
So just give them what they want all the time then. BlueTsunami2018 1 hr ago #84
MAGA voters have not felt enough pain yet. nt Hotler 52 min ago #86
I blame this solely on the GOP Torchlight 20 min ago #90
Join the Mass Blackout! BlueWavePsych 2 min ago #95
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