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In reply to the discussion: People wanting the shutdown to continue into the holidays - who has 40 plus days of funding in reserve to survive on? [View all]reACTIONary
(6,841 posts)122. With the historical record? Or with the chances this time around?
Did she say anything about this? If so, I'd be interested in what she said. Maybe you could provide a source.
Here is an assessment of the historical record from an academic:
They dont work. There have been a handful of shutdowns longer than a day in the modern era. In none of them did the party trying to leverage the shutdown win the concessions they were seeking and, in each case, they also lost the public opinion battle.
Their opponents simply demanded a reopening of the government while pointing out all the ways the shutdown was hurting federal workers and American citizens. Eventually, the shutdown coalition cracked, the government reopened, they didnt win their policy major objectives, and they were worse off politically going forward
Their opponents simply demanded a reopening of the government while pointing out all the ways the shutdown was hurting federal workers and American citizens. Eventually, the shutdown coalition cracked, the government reopened, they didnt win their policy major objectives, and they were worse off politically going forward
NYT, No Paywall
That's a fairly good description of what happened this time around.
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People wanting the shutdown to continue into the holidays - who has 40 plus days of funding in reserve to survive on? [View all]
bigtree
Wednesday
OP
The Senate Democrats took the ONLY shot they had at preventing the deaths of tens of thousands.
pat_k
Wednesday
#30
With preparation more than 3 months but that didn't happen, Dem leadership did no prep work for
uponit7771
13 hrs ago
#93
Yep, it'll happen again until democrats prepare the pupulace to hold out for a long time
uponit7771
6 hrs ago
#121
We gained over a month of making the public aware that the repubs supported ending the subsidies
onenote
23 hrs ago
#57
I agree with much of what you said, people can't live without a paycheck forever...
Jack Valentino
Wednesday
#25
I do think the state of Michigan under Whitmer acted much more quickly,
Jack Valentino
Wednesday
#31
AND utilizes the 'Trump Justice' department to fight against court orders
Jack Valentino
Wednesday
#36
It didn't increase the funding for SNAP, but it guaranteed it through September 2026
onenote
23 hrs ago
#58
We also have the opportunity to raise the issue before people lose their insurance.
onenote
23 hrs ago
#63
It was NOT that 'obvious'---- there are quite a few swing state and swing district Republicans
Jack Valentino
Wednesday
#33
To a certain extent it was political theater. Or more aptly, political education
onenote
23 hrs ago
#60
I think it did a good job showing which party cares about people who need assistance
Skittles
23 hrs ago
#64
Furthermore it also accomplishes something the republicans cant on their own
Samael13
14 hrs ago
#82
"What kind of party allows that to go into Thanksgiving and the rest, leaving them under the knife of the republicans"
Takket
Wednesday
#40
we had the power to remove those workers and their families out of the way of our politics
bigtree
23 hrs ago
#47