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Eddie Haskell

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20. I think you're wrong

Wed Jun 19, 2013, 09:49 AM

Jun 2013

http://www.cashill.com/twa800/twa_foia.htm

Although I have not seen the July 17 video, I have heard from scores, if not hundreds, of credible people who swear they saw it on television in the first hours after the crash. Some have described it to me and other independent investigators in perfect detail.

MSNBC, launched just two days prior to the disaster, seemed to have won the bidding war for the rights to the July 17 video. I say "seemed" because my source will not speak on record, nor will MSNBC follow up on queries.

What I have been told, however, is that late on the night of the crash, editors at MSNBC had the tape on their monitors when "three men in suits" came to their editing suites, removed the tape, and threatened the editors with serious consequences if they ever revealed its contents.

An hour after this video aired on MSNBC, I saw a similar video on Fox. It was an actual jet liner explosion, but they explained how a fuel leak could appear to be a missile. How did Fox know just hours after the explosion and who supplied their video? It took the investigators four years to come to the same conclusion.

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Documentary aims to 'break silence' on crash of TWA Flight 800 [View all] Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 OP

Timing is everything. Why in the world is this old case long ruled on and decided, back NOW??? graham4anything Jun 2013 #1

Um... because it's been in the works for months? Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #4

So is the reemergence of Jeb Bush being in the works for months(years.) graham4anything Jun 2013 #7

They waited until after the retired and then it takes awhile to make a movie. tammywammy Jun 2013 #6

I know like the convient way deep throat was id'd and as he was old, died shortly afterward. graham4anything Jun 2013 #8

Because insurgents in Syria just got hold of Soviet shoulder fired anti-aircraft missiles? Junkdrawer Jun 2013 #9

The Article RobinA Jun 2013 #81

I remember this. It was horrific... Rhiannon12866 Jun 2013 #2

The six whistle blowers were under a gag order. Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #29

So most, if not all of the following must be in on the cover-up? Blue_Tires Jun 2013 #72

Do you doubt what was reported? Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #111

I remember some NY papers leftynyc Jun 2013 #3

There was no missile. Eye witness testimony is wrong a lot. Read some NTSB.... Logical Jun 2013 #5

I'm well aware of the leftynyc Jun 2013 #13

They Didn't See RobinA Jun 2013 #82

Hey - if you want to believe leftynyc Jun 2013 #87

Not liars, just incorrect. DinahMoeHum Jun 2013 #101

I think you're wrong Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #20

Wow, interesting. I actually love this type of mystery. Even though.... Logical Jun 2013 #44

"Do not believe your lying eyes" was the meme Berlum Jun 2013 #11

I paid close attention to this incident leftynyc Jun 2013 #15

Is this supposed to be a photo of TWA 800? The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2013 #37

that's the PSA 727 that was hit by a Cessna 172 back in the 70's in California Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #49

Yep - it crashed in my current neighborhood FreeState Jun 2013 #58

Let's face it, there are no proof at all aliens are visiting earth. Random... Logical Jun 2013 #45

That's a Boeing 727 in the photo Floyd_Gondolli Jun 2013 #47

The night of the incident between 3:30 and 4:30 a.m. Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #10

I too, saw that clip premium Jun 2013 #22

It took the official investigators four years to discover what Fox new within hours. Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #26

Amazing huh? premium Jun 2013 #32

Yes, but what about missiles under development? Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #35

I can't 100% say there wasn't a cover up premium Jun 2013 #38

I think that was from Die Hard 2. Orrex Jun 2013 #84

What an oddly written piece jberryhill Jun 2013 #12

Well, gotta stir up excitement somehow. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2013 #18

Let's assume (hypothetically) that it was actually a surface-to-air missile BlueStreak Jun 2013 #56

I don't think you understood my comment jberryhill Jun 2013 #71

I took your point to be that the article was overly dramatic BlueStreak Jun 2013 #73

That's not how engineering works jberryhill Jun 2013 #78

The staged 'sploshun BlueStreak Jun 2013 #88

I remember being told that two maintenace workers at Fire Island, in separate locations byeya Jun 2013 #14

The problem is what appears to be "up" is not necessarily up. jeff47 Jun 2013 #21

That's the explanation given and I don't deny it's possibility. These two men in question byeya Jun 2013 #102

Eyewitness testimony is often unreliable ... all 230 of them. Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #23

:) Certainly there is a phenomenon of "invented memory" BlueStreak Jun 2013 #75

I remember a radar screenshot in a Denver newspaper showing an object approaching the plane. reformist2 Jun 2013 #16

The exercises weren't "in the vacinity". jeff47 Jun 2013 #19

Occam's razor. reformist2 Jun 2013 #28

You really think a missile flying twice its range is the simplest answer? jeff47 Jun 2013 #108

The point you're trying to make is nullified by those coming forth... Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #52

Yet those people coming forward still doesn't double the range of a SAM. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2013 #109

The point is, we're being lied to on a regular basis. Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #25

I seem to recall there were military training exercises B2G Jun 2013 #17

Those naval training exercises premium Jun 2013 #24

This is an interesting read B2G Jun 2013 #27

well jollyreaper2112 Jun 2013 #30

The NTSB or FAA premium Jun 2013 #34

ok jollyreaper2112 Jun 2013 #39

That's not true... Pilotguy Jun 2013 #41

I stand corrected, premium Jun 2013 #42

That was the big debate at the time... Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #53

You only ground the whole fleet if they all have the same critical design flaw Blue_Tires Jun 2013 #79

They all did... 100 thru 400 series. Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #80

I remember seeing John Kerry on Hardball say it was caused by terrorists. City Lights Jun 2013 #31

Convienent, how those "terrorists" always seem to know about our training excercises? Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #33

The Big Initial RobinA Jun 2013 #86

We learned WovenGems Jun 2013 #36

Finally! Turbineguy Jun 2013 #40

That's what I was thinking Floyd_Gondolli Jun 2013 #48

Wow. Thanks for the totally irrelevant preemptive smear of a fellow DUer. Nice. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #60

I'm sorry you feel that way Floyd_Gondolli Jun 2013 #62

Um... wow. Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #51

Are you kidding? Turbineguy Jun 2013 #64

I was a witness (one of 5) who wasn't on South Shore of LI HockeyMom Jun 2013 #43

They dismissed all witnesses. Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #46

Now you're just taking the piss Blue_Tires Jun 2013 #74

You cannot see debris from an explosion HockeyMom Jun 2013 #110

Very interesting observations, Thanks for posting byeya Jun 2013 #103

TWA 800 was shot down by a missile FarCenter Jun 2013 #50

No it was not! But more exciting than real reason I grant you! n-t Logical Jun 2013 #61

TWA 800 was shot down by a UFO Baclava Jun 2013 #54

um... yeah. Thanks for that... Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #55

Thank you! zappaman Jun 2013 #59

The Truth is Out There Baclava Jun 2013 #63

I hope they move to 9/11 after this Politicalboi Jun 2013 #57

The thing that always struck me as odd was... opiate69 Jun 2013 #65

For starters Blue_Tires Jun 2013 #92

I lived in New Haven, Conn. at the time KamaAina Jun 2013 #66

Tamron Hall is discussing this now n/t malaise Jun 2013 #67

this was before phone hacking so the NY Post sent reporters who posed as "therapists" KurtNYC Jun 2013 #68

faux noise was all over this during the megan kelly show...... a kennedy Jun 2013 #69

Is there any newly discovered, hard, reliable evidence? Blue_Tires Jun 2013 #70

"airliners.net" is amateur hour... Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #77

Then like I said... Blue_Tires Jun 2013 #83

I think what they're going to say is... Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #85

Kinda hard to call a four-year investigation "truncated" Blue_Tires Jun 2013 #89

the government woud not lie about something like this nt markiv Jun 2013 #76

I hate to go all "ATTACKING THE MESSENGER!!!1111111!" Blue_Tires Jun 2013 #90

How does this attack the messenger? Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #91

So Bill Clinton is directly involved in the cover-up? Blue_Tires Jun 2013 #93

Oy vey... not even close to this yet... Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #95

Being in the business, I followed this mn9driver Jun 2013 #94

Those that are coming fwd are not crackpots... Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #96

You *may* be right about that. Then again, mn9driver Jun 2013 #97

But the film's producer is a crackpot (look at his site) Blue_Tires Jun 2013 #100

To say nothing of the fact that Blue_Tires Jun 2013 #98

Ah, but what if it was a Boeing missile? jberryhill Jun 2013 #99

As an aside. Savannahmann Jun 2013 #104

Okay, breathe into the tube jberryhill Jun 2013 #105

In a universe where anything is possible. Savannahmann Jun 2013 #106

Having an infinite bankroll helps jberryhill Jun 2013 #107