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jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
93. And they say manufacturing is dead, yet some can manufacture excuses all day long.
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 03:13 AM
Oct 2013

If Obama wants to save Social Security the best thing he can do is say he will veto anything that even smells like a cut, and take to the tv to tell seniors how the thieving republicans are trying to steal their money. That he and his whole damn family will lead hungry seniors and people on crutches through the streets with the Secret Service and the military to protect them against the Teabaggers, and camp around the place until we get something that works for the American people for a change.

Compromise is what happens to an immune system before the patient dies - it has no place here.

He should also suggest that IRS issue new guidelines relieving the wealthy of one of their tax breaks on carried interest, since a court has now ruled people who are paying only 20% instead of 39% are actually running the business.

Wanna read about it?

"A Chance to End a Billion-Dollar Tax Break for Private Equity" Here.

Will you be as quick to let us know when he gives his first public speech on the need to stop letting Mi$$ RobMe pay only 20% taxes on the money he doesn't stash away overseas, while the Walmart workers (of which there are over 500,000 making less than $25,000 a year) are subject to as high as 39%, if they happen to make enough?

Fannie and Freddie didn't cause the crisis. They came late to the game and were a minor player, and you should educate yourself on that - Wall Street took advantage of the trust the people had in them, just like the S&L officers did. We put them in jail, and there is no excuse good enough for the failure to even investigate them this time. When Obama stood in front of the bankers and said "I am the only one between you and the pitchforks" he handed these donors to this party a free pass. He should have directed the FBI to staff itself like they did in the Savings and Loan scandal and start investigating those bastards.

Instead Wall Street - who, btw, contributed heavily to the Democrats and his campaign, have not only been let off the hook, but have been profiting handily from money given them by a Republican Federal Reserve Chairman appointed by Obama, who keeps telling the growing number of people on food stamps and the people who are losing their fucking jobs that it is for "their own good". Go tell the nearly (and it will be soon) 10 million FAMILIES who were kicked out of their homes in foreclosure so the banks could steal money how great it is that none have been prosecuted, while people have DIED from the hardship this government has let them bring to hard-working Americans.

Excuses. Bullshit.

We have plenty of examples from history of politicians without a majority who could get things done that were good for someone other than the 1%. But for some, success is worth any price that SOMEONE ELSE has to pay.

As you say "Geez" - why the fuck can't the Democrats get the backs of the people being screwed, instead of making sure their donors made a record profit in the second quarter of this year?

As far as the rest of that crap, he inherited his first term from someone else, but he inherited this one from himself. So there is no one left to blame.

Sure, it's easy to get "something done" if you bend over for the bullies. Take a look at Chamberlain in the 40's. And how many people died for that mistake? Sometimes it doesn't matter what the odds are, one has to fight.

Believe what you want, but think about why she said this...

"I freed a thousand slaves I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves." Harriet Tubman

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K7R pscot Oct 2013 #1
I'm With You 777 WillyT Oct 2013 #3
Absolutely not. Plain and simple. Autumn Oct 2013 #2
:loveya: WillyT Oct 2013 #4
love ya too WillyT Autumn Oct 2013 #10
How do you define "cutting?" treestar Oct 2013 #5
Oh No... You Tell ME... What "Cuts" Do Not Impact Those ENTITLED TO THE BENEFITS THEY'VE EARNED ??? WillyT Oct 2013 #8
You didn't answer: what's a "cut"? Recursion Oct 2013 #21
Under a chained CPI they will go down, relative to the inflation faced by the elderly Dragonfli Oct 2013 #24
By definition, no Recursion Oct 2013 #26
misinformation Dragonfli Oct 2013 #27
Yes, your post was. Glad you recognize that (nt) Recursion Oct 2013 #28
Chained CPI does not figure inflation correctly. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #37
That's a good synthesis of how it's been described on DU, but not very accurate Recursion Oct 2013 #58
The bottom line is that this should not be a part of any Deficit talks sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #86
He is sitting in Mumbai, India RandiFan1290 Oct 2013 #44
What is disgusting is attacking Americans because they live in another country treestar Oct 2013 #52
This again? Recursion Oct 2013 #61
Total misinformation. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #50
They always leave that out - that even if it were adopted, it would not treestar Oct 2013 #51
The Chained CPI is intended to cut SS. Not 'by definition' or any other sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #70
The average Social Secuirty benefit is maybe 200 dollars above the minimum wage level. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #36
Why do you ignore the fact that under O's floated proposal the poorest 1/3 keep the old CPI? Recursion Oct 2013 #60
Gee, upthread you were claiming that CCPI is the more true measure of inflation, a good thing Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #74
Nope Recursion Oct 2013 #75
Because the people between 1/3 and 1/2 still fall gradually below the poverty line. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #87
The poverty rate among US seniors is 15% Recursion Oct 2013 #89
I guess I am wayyyyy below avg. Bohunk68 Oct 2013 #73
Yes. Approximately 1/2 of the receipients of Social Security are under the average level. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #88
It's a simple question treestar Oct 2013 #49
Anything that takes a single penny away from those who OWN that fund. sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #69
no, No and NO cantbeserious Oct 2013 #6
No! truebluegreen Oct 2013 #7
Exactly TexasBushwhacker Oct 2013 #15
cost cutting measures can be made without cutting benefits krawhitham Oct 2013 #9
And You'd Better Be Damned Careful, Honest, And Explicit When You Try To Explain That Theory... WillyT Oct 2013 #13
How? Medicare has lower administrative costs than does private insurance. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #38
Propose yes. Proposing it can be nothing more than a political chess move. Actually voting for okaawhatever Oct 2013 #11
Like the chess move that pays banks $85 billion a month because it's good for the little people? jtuck004 Oct 2013 #23
You are watching to much Richard Wolff BelgianMadCow Oct 2013 #25
I had heard the name, but never read up on him. But behold, a web site. jtuck004 Oct 2013 #35
He made an analysis of the recovery that isn't a recovery unless you disregard the majority BelgianMadCow Oct 2013 #48
+1 cui bono Oct 2013 #32
Plus 1,000,000! Enthusiast Oct 2013 #53
Ommm.....none of the things you mentioned, except the expiration of the Recovery Act, have anything okaawhatever Oct 2013 #90
And they say manufacturing is dead, yet some can manufacture excuses all day long. jtuck004 Oct 2013 #93
It's the Democrats who keep raising the subject. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #34
Dempocrats may be betraying their ideals by suggesting cutting social security, but they aren't for okaawhatever Oct 2013 #92
Proposing it puts it on the table, LWolf Oct 2013 #65
"You want X? Ok, what will you give me for X?" That's the game. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #85
Thank you, it seems the seniors are starting to come around. I was wondering what the numbers okaawhatever Oct 2013 #91
YUP ... and your last sentence really nails another great point. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #95
Time to bring out the old "anti-war" crew. Hell, no we won't go ... without healthcare for our libdem4life Oct 2013 #12
snatch defeat from the jaws of victory dembotoz Oct 2013 #14
Chuckle ReRe Oct 2013 #30
That's "Democratic". Enough with the Rovian re-naming. riqster Oct 2013 #43
never.... mike_c Oct 2013 #16
Me Too... WillyT Oct 2013 #17
Already cut SS benefits when they upped age to get full benefits. kiranon Oct 2013 #18
exactly. So many on here swear their precious democratic leaders have never hurt SS. liberal_at_heart Oct 2013 #22
+10000 woo me with science Oct 2013 #29
It wasn't that the increases Bohunk68 Oct 2013 #71
We need to end the trade agreements that permit US jobs to be moved overseas without JDPriestly Oct 2013 #40
We need a pro-American trade policy. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #59
"Where are the jobs?" Enthusiast Oct 2013 #56
That's sacred territory BlueJazz Oct 2013 #19
What's a "cut"? Recursion Oct 2013 #20
A reduction in buying power. Quit your dancing, your answer is yes but it is preferred TheKentuckian Oct 2013 #62
"Too generous" is a weird way to put it. Recursion Oct 2013 #63
I'm pushing for reductions to the TSP portion of FERS, we can't afford that extra gravy Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #76
I don't see what is weird about it. That has to be the argument, most folks are just over broke, at TheKentuckian Oct 2013 #83
They are too meager, which is why it would have to include something big Recursion Oct 2013 #84
medicare needs to EVOLVE. the SS FICA cap needs to be ELIMINATED. BOOM that is it. pansypoo53219 Oct 2013 #31
What evolution do you propose for Medicare? JDPriestly Oct 2013 #41
No way, Jose ReRe Oct 2013 #33
Depends. pnwmom Oct 2013 #39
Depends on circumstances - how bad things are, what people might get in return, whether Hoyt Oct 2013 #42
I had to choose "No"... because there wasn't a "NO WAY IN HELL!" option.... Ghost in the Machine Oct 2013 #45
^ agree100% with Ghost! peacebird Oct 2013 #46
Hell no. nt DLevine Oct 2013 #47
Chained CPI is CUTTING Social Security eridani Oct 2013 #54
not just hell no but, gopiscrap Oct 2013 #55
Let Senator Durbin know how you feel--sign the CREDO petition eridani Oct 2013 #57
As it says on the red graphic .... Scuba Oct 2013 #64
Well they may say they won't Puzzledtraveller Oct 2013 #66
Yes Savannahmann Oct 2013 #67
This is not election season. If Skinner wants to ban folks for being actual Democrats he Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #77
The question was would I support them? Savannahmann Oct 2013 #80
need to see the short and long-term explanations and total package alc Oct 2013 #68
hell no... Slashed Enough Already eShirl Oct 2013 #72
I'm calling bullshit on myself. dawg Oct 2013 #78
Is there a video of a Democrat making such a proposal? JoePhilly Oct 2013 #79
No meanit Oct 2013 #81
I generally wouldn't but given the option of either voting for them or a Republican/Independent with Xyzse Oct 2013 #82
That "logic" means you can be herded as long as their is that scarier alternative TheKentuckian Oct 2013 #94
Well, this is how I voted Obama. Xyzse Oct 2013 #96
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