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In reply to the discussion: Kennedy's assassination: Conspiracy or lone killer, I think the fact that we even ask the question [View all]Bolo Boffin
(23,872 posts)98. A frangible bullet did not strike JFK that day.
One other thing that I must mention: the term frangible bullet was introduced yesterday by Dr. Wecht, who I believe, as I understand him, feels that there is a possibility that there was a simultaneously fired or synchronized shot somewhere from the right front or right side striking the President in the area where the skull was already blown away.
Now, about frangible bullets causing such injury or causing injuries in individuals. I happen to be a coauthor of the only paper that has ever been written about the wounding capabilities of frangible bullets. Frangible bullets are bullets that are designed to be used in shooting galleries. These are bullets that are specifically designed to break up on the backdrop of the shooting gallery, so as not to ricochet and cause injury to either the shooters or to the people who work in the gallery.
Such bullets usually are formed of iron filings or small granular pieces of iron bound together by some organic substance, so that upon breaking up they break into numerous pieces. Such bullets and the breakup products of bullets are easy to detect in X-rays. There are no such fragments in the X-ray of the late President's head.
There was no frangible bullet fired.
I might also add that frangible bullets are produced in 22 caliber loads and they are not produced in larger weapons.
There is no evidence in the X-ray of the President's head of a frangible bullet shot. If there were, I would expect to see square appearing particles of which are not present and, furthermore, if such a bullet were fired into the side of the head, through the aperture caused by the exiting large bullet, I would expect those pieces of the frangible bullet to have continued over to the left of the head and there would be material, metallic material easily identifiable seen in the left side of the brain.
There are no such fragments present.
Now, about frangible bullets causing such injury or causing injuries in individuals. I happen to be a coauthor of the only paper that has ever been written about the wounding capabilities of frangible bullets. Frangible bullets are bullets that are designed to be used in shooting galleries. These are bullets that are specifically designed to break up on the backdrop of the shooting gallery, so as not to ricochet and cause injury to either the shooters or to the people who work in the gallery.
Such bullets usually are formed of iron filings or small granular pieces of iron bound together by some organic substance, so that upon breaking up they break into numerous pieces. Such bullets and the breakup products of bullets are easy to detect in X-rays. There are no such fragments in the X-ray of the late President's head.
There was no frangible bullet fired.
I might also add that frangible bullets are produced in 22 caliber loads and they are not produced in larger weapons.
There is no evidence in the X-ray of the President's head of a frangible bullet shot. If there were, I would expect to see square appearing particles of which are not present and, furthermore, if such a bullet were fired into the side of the head, through the aperture caused by the exiting large bullet, I would expect those pieces of the frangible bullet to have continued over to the left of the head and there would be material, metallic material easily identifiable seen in the left side of the brain.
There are no such fragments present.
From the HSCA testimony of Dr. Charles Petty.
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Kennedy's assassination: Conspiracy or lone killer, I think the fact that we even ask the question [View all]
hedgehog
Nov 2013
OP
Anybody who thinks the American public got the full story on either one of those is nuts
BlueStreak
Nov 2013
#107
because it was a national trauma i think - in a way that other assassinations haven't been
el_bryanto
Nov 2013
#2
I imagine Alfred Dreyfus, John Ehrlichman and all those involved in Iran-Contra would like to agree
LanternWaste
Nov 2013
#49
Some people are closed minded and refuse to accept the massive evidence that Oswald killed Kennedy
cpwm17
Nov 2013
#60
Too many loose ends in the JFK saga not to have conspiracy theories even after 50 years.
mc51tc
Nov 2013
#7
Marina Oswald now says her husband was set up as 'a patsy' from India Today newspaper
mc51tc
Nov 2013
#19
I haven't seen too many CTs re the JFK assassination. I HAVE seen some disturbing, legitimate
sabrina 1
Nov 2013
#11
JFK was hit with two bullets. One was a full-metal one which was recovered after hitting multiple
AnotherMcIntosh
Nov 2013
#17
Well, they think that the words CT are an insult, but it has been used, oddly enough, so often
sabrina 1
Nov 2013
#20
Forget the word conspiracy. It was a murder and there's no evidence Oswald fired a shot.
Zen Democrat
Nov 2013
#56
Sure Oswald was seen at the Book Depository right before and after the assassination.
Zen Democrat
Nov 2013
#108
The signifigance of the choice of the Carcano is that the Italian manufacturer had multiple
AnotherMcIntosh
Nov 2013
#99
It's weird that so many intelligent people can believe that conspiracy theories are crackpot.
Zen Democrat
Nov 2013
#81
"That means that these people do not believe in the possibility of conspiracies."
zappaman
Nov 2013
#84
One exception to the Joint Chiefs of Staff was Marine Commandant Shoup who disagreed with a
AnotherMcIntosh
Nov 2013
#92
"carefully collected data to prove that it was a lone gunman" - Actually, they immediately knew that
AnotherMcIntosh
Nov 2013
#15
A more interesting pathology is the mind that can't accept that conspiracies do sometimes occur.
whatchamacallit
Nov 2013
#18
An assassin is a special type of murderer - typically the assassin wants to take full credit
hedgehog
Nov 2013
#44
nice circular logic. the fact that there is such a strong CT is proof there must be a conspiracy?
Pretzel_Warrior
Nov 2013
#21
"so many people who seem to be rational on other topics" -- Key word: seem
Nuclear Unicorn
Nov 2013
#26
And a significant number of people still believe that nothing improper was done during the Watergate
LanternWaste
Nov 2013
#51
No, the entire month of November is being dedicated to the 50th aniversary of the murder
sabrina 1
Nov 2013
#59
"Conspiracy theories are true"/"Conspiracy theories are bullshit" is a false dichotomy.
Warren DeMontague
Nov 2013
#42
No. When Hillary Clinton said there was a "vast RW conspiracy" we didn't get out the foil,
KurtNYC
Nov 2013
#52
If there wan't a conspiracy, the government would unseal the records.
SolutionisSolidarity
Nov 2013
#53
How easy for a kid from the bronx streets get an early discharge from the USMC,
CK_John
Nov 2013
#61
Are you relying on evidence produced by the Warren Commission to disprove the Warren Report? nt
nyquil_man
Nov 2013
#74
Another important piece of evidence is the absence of a second bullet as durable as CE399.
AnotherMcIntosh
Nov 2013
#77
No, funny is your asserted belief that bullets designed to not fragment, when hitting tissue,
AnotherMcIntosh
Nov 2013
#93
While you've got the dictionary open and are looking random words like disingenuous
Bolo Boffin
Nov 2013
#96
You're still too funny. Do you think that everyone one should respond to your bait?
AnotherMcIntosh
Nov 2013
#97
I expect people to back up the things they assert about this event with facts.
Bolo Boffin
Nov 2013
#100
Another important piece of evidence is the absence of a second bullet as durable as CE399.
AnotherMcIntosh
Nov 2013
#102
There was no frangible bullet fired at JFK that day. See my #98 in this thread.
Bolo Boffin
Nov 2013
#103
One quick thing about the back brace. The Dallas doctors said he had a small brace around his waist.
Zen Democrat
Nov 2013
#83
The stretcher bullet is also different from the frangible bullet which exploded upon contact and
AnotherMcIntosh
Nov 2013
#90
Oy vey, he was whacked. Maybe he wouldn't escalate Vietnam. Maybe something else.
valerief
Nov 2013
#104