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seabeckind

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74. What I said was that using a generational metric
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 06:34 PM
Jan 2014

is wrong. The things we are talking about aren't determined by the age of the people involved but by the culture around them. And whether that environment is conducive to innovative solutions to the problems facing us.

As I said: The 50s, 60s, and 70s were the years we saw the greatest achievements in this country since the industrial era...The 80s ushered in the MBA age, the age when individual initiative and innovation started dying. You can't apply the blame for the loss of that dynamism on a "generation". It is caused by the environment and how the people react to that, regardless of their birthdate.

And I really hate to break it to you but there were computers long before 1980. In fact even the PC predates that. To say that making that technology smaller and more affordable is an innovation is a bit o a stretch. It's kinda like Apple saying a new color for their phone is an innovation. BTW, cell technology dates back to the 70s.

As I said, the legacy systems that are complained about, like in the ACA interface were installed long ago. They are the ones that pump out those SS checks, VA payments, etc. I don't know fo certain but I believe the whole electrical grid and control systems probably date back to that era also.

But the point I have been trying to make is this: If our country has gone to hell since 1980, maybe instead of blame you should look to cause.

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What I said was that using a generational metric seabeckind Jan 2014 #74
If you don't see any technological advances in the last 30 years, hughee99 Jan 2014 #75
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I was a war baby. seabeckind Dec 2013 #67
and a 40-something white woman. and re your update Iris Dec 2013 #68
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