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1StrongBlackMan

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86. I had a Hispanic co-worker, whose Uncle ...

Fri Nov 21, 2014, 05:59 PM

Nov 2014

was heavily involved in human trafficking, here is Tucson, AZ.

His "business model" was to find a group of 10-15 folks, charge them between $1,500-3,000 to get them across the border. For another $1,500-3,000, he would arrange "employment", in Phoenix, AZ (at below minimum wage and paid in cash on Fridays off site).

On the Thursday before "pay day", he would call ICE and have them "raid" the spot where the workers were to be paid.

My co-worker shared that her Uncle died a particularly painful, disease ridden death and she hoped there was a special place in hell for this guy.

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Is Immigration really the top problem we need Obama to deal with? [View all] J_J_ Nov 2014 OP

It is if you are a child about to have both parents deported..... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #1

Not some people...same people. Nt. pkdu Nov 2014 #4

+1 MohRokTah Nov 2014 #140

The legal immigrants will now be fired, corporations like illegals for a reason J_J_ Nov 2014 #13

uh wut??? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #19

Why not go after corporations hiring illegals? What is the problem with that? J_J_ Nov 2014 #26

What would you have him do to them? Give them a time out? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #29

Shut down the business if they are hiring illegal immigrants- don't go after immigrants J_J_ Nov 2014 #34

HOW does he do that? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #36

seriously? If they are illegal, isn't it illegal to hire them? DUH! You send people to arrest them J_J_ Nov 2014 #40

and Obama knows....right....he can executive order them to JAIL!!! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #43

There is no way to hold corporations who hire illegal workers accountable to the law? J_J_ Nov 2014 #48

Oh and Obama and his Executive Orders can fix that? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #83

No EO required, that is called enforcement of laws on the book or are you arguing it is legal TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #82

I am arguing that Obama cannot EO that out of existence....PERIOD! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #84

What are you inventing now? When did I say anything about splitting up families? TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #123

that IS what this is fucking about.....Children BORN in the United States having their parents VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #125

I'm not against this action, my argument was that no EO is required to prosecute TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #137

Then what the hell are you talking about....you make no sense at all! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #153

I'm talking about a nonsense point you made that Obama can't enforce illegal hiring laws. TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #167

they are already law....he VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #168

then why does this matter...its ALREADY on the books...Obama is not preventing that! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #103

Yup, this is the enforcing the law part BUT an EO could be made to refocus enforcement TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #121

No an EO cannot do that.....You also act like the EO is a magic wand.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #155

If the undocumented workers provide decent quality fake ID to satisfy the form I-9 requirements, amandabeech Nov 2014 #99

You talking about all those that came in planes with visas and just overstayed??? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #104

No, I'm talking about mostly Mexicans who came here without documentation amandabeech Nov 2014 #107

Oh yes all 12 million of them right? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #150

From what I've read, it's about half, but I can't vouch for the number. amandabeech Nov 2014 #154

then YOU need to show WHAT you have read..... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #156

I'm just going from memory on the number, no more, no less. n/t amandabeech Nov 2014 #159

that doesn't work around here....if you make a claim....you source it or its false... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #160

and those that came on planes "don't" get fake id's just Mexicans.....rioght! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #151

No, I imagine that many Visa overstayers get fake IDs, too, amandabeech Nov 2014 #157

Please provide a source that 6 million "illegal immigrants" have fake Ids... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #158

You're more interested in this topic than I am. Google is your friend. n/t amandabeech Nov 2014 #161

YOU made this claim that YOU believe.....back it up...as I say Bullshit! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #162

"Under Obama, ICE announced sanctions against major employers." pampango Nov 2014 #146

just admit what your agenda is and get it over with. Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #130

FOX News Talks about it EVERY day for 6 years-It MUST Be. Besides, Obama addressed it in minutes. NT TheBlackAdder Nov 2014 #139

No, these people needed him to deal with it: Ykcutnek Nov 2014 #2

Nice depictive photo, Ykcutnek! Gracias~ Cha Nov 2014 #91

Huge fail, but thanks for playing. emulatorloo Nov 2014 #3

The insinuation being we can only do one thing at a time RedCappedBandit Nov 2014 #5

what is being done to help millions who are starving? J_J_ Nov 2014 #15

Well now we have a repub Congress ask them. upaloopa Nov 2014 #42

A lot. RedCappedBandit Nov 2014 #72

he acted alone on this- he can act alone again J_J_ Nov 2014 #74

What exactly can he do for the hungry and homeless, alone (ie EO), that he won't get sued for? kydo Nov 2014 #97

He's not the only one who can act on those issues, first of all, RedCappedBandit Nov 2014 #108

Take a CIVICs lesson. Learn who controls the purse strings in this government! nt TheBlackAdder Nov 2014 #141

What's the matter President Obama did not wave his magic Executive Order wand and end world VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #105

Ask the republican congress. nt. Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #131

'Merca TBF Nov 2014 #6

Is he stopping corporations from hiring illegal immigrants? J_J_ Nov 2014 #17

Did you listen to TBF Nov 2014 #25

they need to stop going after PEOPLE, and go after the CORPORATIONS that are using/abusing them J_J_ Nov 2014 #30

Agree with you on that - TBF Nov 2014 #45

Go after corporations?.....but then he wouldn't have the time and money to help the poor in your op Sheepshank Nov 2014 #62

Obama must search every restaurant and Landscaping business by hand until EVERY employer VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #109

Stop this foolishness ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #61

Facts don't matter to pot-stirring trolls. emulatorloo Nov 2014 #79

Did you even read your link? former9thward Nov 2014 #87

Yes, I read it ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #100

That the increase was mostly do to paperwork items. former9thward Nov 2014 #128

I'm in AZ, as well ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #134

Well it depends on what the paperwork violations are. former9thward Nov 2014 #136

True. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #144

Executive orders only cover the Federal branch. joshcryer Nov 2014 #116

Where did I say I wanted to nationalize everything? TBF Nov 2014 #117

How else do you get there? joshcryer Nov 2014 #118

Here we go again ... TBF Nov 2014 #120

I think you underestimate capitalism. joshcryer Nov 2014 #126

You've convinced me - TBF Nov 2014 #133

It's a big problem Kalidurga Nov 2014 #7

Should I file this under, "nothing is ever good enough" or under "you can't do two things at once" FSogol Nov 2014 #8

Obama ate breakfast today. Ykcutnek Nov 2014 #10

Is he doing anything at all to address millions of starving people in America? J_J_ Nov 2014 #21

you do realize they ARE some of the people starving in America right? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #27

Perhaps you've heard of the SNAP Program? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #64

Child poverty in U.S. is at highest point in 20 years, report finds J_J_ Nov 2014 #66

Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #70

and Obama should use the "mighty Executive Order wand" to end poverty immediatly! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #111

If Obama WERE an emperor, he could do this. He's not, so J_J_ is just trolling. nt TheBlackAdder Nov 2014 #142

Exactly..... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #152

Forget that prioritization...is it a VERY GOOD THING? HereSince1628 Nov 2014 #9

Unlike his predecesor who could not walk and chew a pretzel, Obama can do two things at once. nt Xipe Totec Nov 2014 #11

But HE IS NOT doing anything J_J_ Nov 2014 #22

Your concern is duly noted. nt Xipe Totec Nov 2014 #23

And how do you know this? Skidmore Nov 2014 #41

Do free trade agreements help Americans keep jobs and put food on their families? J_J_ Nov 2014 #57

You on the other hand are just so full of... solutions. nt Xipe Totec Nov 2014 #78

"HE IS NOT doing anything"? Nothing? He talked about immigration yesterday so is taking today off? uppityperson Nov 2014 #51

President Obama can not legislate (create law) or raise funds so can not create programs Agnosticsherbet Nov 2014 #12

If he can make his own path on immigration, he can stand up to the bastards and help the rest of US J_J_ Nov 2014 #58

He promised to re-negotiate NAFTA as well. amandabeech Nov 2014 #68

yes, exactly. People don't seem to want to look at the root of our problems J_J_ Nov 2014 #73

No discussion on real issues means fewer people energized to vote, too. amandabeech Nov 2014 #89

The "Bully Pulpit" is a phrase that describes a Presidents ability to sway public opinion. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2014 #124

Obama should issue an executive order to end poverty! That's what I would do. FSogol Nov 2014 #14

He allowed 8 Billion to be cut from food stamps, even as farm subsidies were increased J_J_ Nov 2014 #24

That's a total misrepresentation of the changes to food stamps and has no connection FSogol Nov 2014 #28

Well, he actually did prevent FLyellowdog Nov 2014 #85

yes. it is one of the 'top problems'. spanone Nov 2014 #16

That's a first world problem right there! demwing Nov 2014 #18

No one is doing anything about the growing number of homeless children J_J_ Nov 2014 #38

often, when a person wants to start a dialog demwing Nov 2014 #110

Yes. It's been festering for years. n/t Comrade Grumpy Nov 2014 #20

You then believe that dealing with A prevents dealing with B, C or D? LanternWaste Nov 2014 #31

dealing with A is fine, but it really wasn't the nation's top priority J_J_ Nov 2014 #55

Simply because you may be ignorant of a particular or a specific, does not in fact, make it the case LanternWaste Nov 2014 #75

I have not been given one credible solution being offered J_J_ Nov 2014 #80

you are ignoring Sheepshank Nov 2014 #32

Child poverty in U.S. is at highest point in 20 years, report finds J_J_ Nov 2014 #60

and your friendly Republican Congress Sheepshank Nov 2014 #63

Well he just did what he wanted on Immigration- He can do it again! J_J_ Nov 2014 #71

you are your faux outrage talking points are useless in this discussion Sheepshank Nov 2014 #94

Well you ARE blabbering. I'll give you that. elias49 Nov 2014 #149

ypu seem to ignore DonCoquixote Nov 2014 #166

Ffs... BeyondGeography Nov 2014 #33

What the Fuck Has Obama Done So far you ask? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #35

Not anymore. Iggo Nov 2014 #37

yes, what is next? That was my whole point! J_J_ Nov 2014 #46

Well...no, it wasn't. Iggo Nov 2014 #115

He doesn't work on one problem at a time. upaloopa Nov 2014 #39

But HE IS NOT doing anything to address millions who are starving and homeless J_J_ Nov 2014 #44

Maybe you missed this reply uppityperson Nov 2014 #52

Write to your congress critter and senator about this. HappyMe Nov 2014 #53

I guess you have a copy of his task list. upaloopa Nov 2014 #56

Who put forth an economic stimulus package. upaloopa Nov 2014 #65

It's getting worse- Obama stood up to them on immigration, why is he helpless on everything else? J_J_ Nov 2014 #77

You are just flogging a dead horse. Go outside and upaloopa Nov 2014 #81

LOL...nice try but major fail... Spazito Nov 2014 #47

Awesome cartoon. n/t FSogol Nov 2014 #50

That is awesome!! azmom Nov 2014 #76

LOL. nt Cali_Democrat Nov 2014 #135

I'm not living in poverty or a homeless child. So, no, it isn't a top problem... Drunken Irishman Nov 2014 #49

More Than 48 Million Americans Live In Poverty, Census Bureau Reports J_J_ Nov 2014 #69

There can be more than one top problem. Drunken Irishman Nov 2014 #93

Yes, it had to bubble to the top eventually Lil Missy Nov 2014 #54

that is a specious argument drray23 Nov 2014 #59

How many of those who are living in Poverty are undocumented residents working dilby Nov 2014 #67

I had a Hispanic co-worker, whose Uncle ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #86

I knew a woman who imported people from Korea and other Asian countries. bravenak Nov 2014 #113

Well, he needed to deal with it years ago. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #88

Sideshow. And it's cheap. Octafish Nov 2014 #90

Yes, the people this effects live here and many have the same problems as you are talking about. jwirr Nov 2014 #92

RepublicansRZombies... SidDithers Nov 2014 #95

!!!! Spazito Nov 2014 #101

Gotta love DU's revolving door... SidDithers Nov 2014 #170

You speak from a certain side of 'we'. LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #96

I suspect Skittles Nov 2014 #98

I thought he did a good job explaining what Progressive dog Nov 2014 #102

It's one of the top problems -- so yes Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2014 #106

You want to know what are more sadoldgirl Nov 2014 #112

Yeah, fuck Obama, saving families from being split up, what an asshole randys1 Nov 2014 #114

Yeah. MurrayDelph Nov 2014 #119

Just something about him, cant put my finger on it, he is different, know what I mean? lol randys1 Nov 2014 #122

He can do more than one thing... tuhaybey Nov 2014 #127

It is an important problem and it is something the executive branch Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #129

How about - it took him an hour to sign new rules for Customs & Border Protection... brooklynite Nov 2014 #132

Jesus Christ, Obama could cure cancer, extend life to 150 years, set up medicare for all, ... MohRokTah Nov 2014 #138

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Nov 2014 #143

Yeah, fuck Obama, saving families from being split up, what an asshole emulatorloo Nov 2014 #163

Yes it is madokie Nov 2014 #145

Did anyone say it was? MineralMan Nov 2014 #147

Immigration reform doesn't really step on the toes of the powerful. Maedhros Nov 2014 #148

There is never just one problem a President has to work on karynnj Nov 2014 #164

Good question Android3.14 Nov 2014 #165

seems to be able to increase war spending and killing J_J_ Nov 2014 #169