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In reply to the discussion: Is Immigration really the top problem we need Obama to deal with? [View all]pampango
(24,692 posts)146. "Under Obama, ICE announced sanctions against major employers."
Under Bush, workplace raids on factories and meatpacking plants received much attention. But after Obama took office, the Department of Homeland Security unveiled a new strategy and ditched the workplace raids, which also tended to punish employees, in favor of "paper raids" -- I-9 paperwork audits of employers to determine if they complied with employment eligibility verification laws.
"ICE will focus its resources within the worksite enforcement program on the criminal prosecution of employers who knowingly hire illegal workers in order to target the root cause of illegal immigration," Homeland Security chief Janet Napolitano said in April 2009. The change was dramatic: the number of I-9 audits soared from 503 in 2008 to more than 8,000 in 2009.
Under Obama, ICE announced sanctions against major employers. That included a $1 million fine against Abercrombie and Fitch that grew out of an I-9 inspection in November 2008 while Bush was president, and the termination of hundreds of workers at Chipotle restaurants.
In 2007, ICE arrested 92 employers, while in 2012 it arrested 240, according to ICE. Final orders -- rulings at the end of the case which show employers violated hiring rules -- also increased under Obama. In 2007, there were two final orders, while in 2012 there were 495.
http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2013/jul/03/debbie-wasserman-schultz/obama-holds-record-cracking-down-employers-who-hir/
"ICE will focus its resources within the worksite enforcement program on the criminal prosecution of employers who knowingly hire illegal workers in order to target the root cause of illegal immigration," Homeland Security chief Janet Napolitano said in April 2009. The change was dramatic: the number of I-9 audits soared from 503 in 2008 to more than 8,000 in 2009.
Under Obama, ICE announced sanctions against major employers. That included a $1 million fine against Abercrombie and Fitch that grew out of an I-9 inspection in November 2008 while Bush was president, and the termination of hundreds of workers at Chipotle restaurants.
In 2007, ICE arrested 92 employers, while in 2012 it arrested 240, according to ICE. Final orders -- rulings at the end of the case which show employers violated hiring rules -- also increased under Obama. In 2007, there were two final orders, while in 2012 there were 495.
http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2013/jul/03/debbie-wasserman-schultz/obama-holds-record-cracking-down-employers-who-hir/
As Immigration Audits Increase, Some Employers Pay a High Price
L. E. Cook was one of 1,444 businesses to receive an introduction to ICEs stepped-up worksite enforcement program in 2009 almost three times the number audited in 2008. Last year, 2,196 businesses were audited. An ICE representative said the agency did not categorize audits by business type and that the law applied across industries.
Any company is at risk at any given time, said Leon Versfeld, an immigration lawyer in Kansas City, Mo. In one prominent case, American Apparel, the clothing manufacturer, was forced to terminate 1,800 undocumented workers after a 2009 audit. Chipotle Mexican Grill, the restaurant chain, has let go hundreds of workers since its audit began last year.
While the administration of George W. Bush focused on headline-making raids that resulted in arrests of immigrant workers, the Obama administration has gone after employers with ICEs I-9 audits on the theory that employers who hire unauthorized workers create the demand that drives most illegal immigration.
After the audit, Mr. Cox started using E-Verify, a federal program that lets employers confirm the authenticity of a job applicants Social Security and green card numbers electronically. Although the programs use is mandatory in some states, its reliability has been debated, and it remains voluntary in California. A bill in Congress that would require all American employers to use the program could go to a vote this month.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/14/business/smallbusiness/how-a-small-business-can-survive-an-immigration-audit.html?pagewanted=all
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Shut down the business if they are hiring illegal immigrants- don't go after immigrants
J_J_
Nov 2014
#34
seriously? If they are illegal, isn't it illegal to hire them? DUH! You send people to arrest them
J_J_
Nov 2014
#40
There is no way to hold corporations who hire illegal workers accountable to the law?
J_J_
Nov 2014
#48
No EO required, that is called enforcement of laws on the book or are you arguing it is legal
TheKentuckian
Nov 2014
#82
What are you inventing now? When did I say anything about splitting up families?
TheKentuckian
Nov 2014
#123
that IS what this is fucking about.....Children BORN in the United States having their parents
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#125
I'm not against this action, my argument was that no EO is required to prosecute
TheKentuckian
Nov 2014
#137
I'm talking about a nonsense point you made that Obama can't enforce illegal hiring laws.
TheKentuckian
Nov 2014
#167
then why does this matter...its ALREADY on the books...Obama is not preventing that!
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#103
Yup, this is the enforcing the law part BUT an EO could be made to refocus enforcement
TheKentuckian
Nov 2014
#121
No an EO cannot do that.....You also act like the EO is a magic wand....
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#155
If the undocumented workers provide decent quality fake ID to satisfy the form I-9 requirements,
amandabeech
Nov 2014
#99
You talking about all those that came in planes with visas and just overstayed???
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#104
that doesn't work around here....if you make a claim....you source it or its false...
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#160
and those that came on planes "don't" get fake id's just Mexicans.....rioght!
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#151
Please provide a source that 6 million "illegal immigrants" have fake Ids...
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#158
You're more interested in this topic than I am. Google is your friend. n/t
amandabeech
Nov 2014
#161
YOU made this claim that YOU believe.....back it up...as I say Bullshit!
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#162
FOX News Talks about it EVERY day for 6 years-It MUST Be. Besides, Obama addressed it in minutes. NT
TheBlackAdder
Nov 2014
#139
What exactly can he do for the hungry and homeless, alone (ie EO), that he won't get sued for?
kydo
Nov 2014
#97
Take a CIVICs lesson. Learn who controls the purse strings in this government! nt
TheBlackAdder
Nov 2014
#141
What's the matter President Obama did not wave his magic Executive Order wand and end world
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#105
they need to stop going after PEOPLE, and go after the CORPORATIONS that are using/abusing them
J_J_
Nov 2014
#30
Go after corporations?.....but then he wouldn't have the time and money to help the poor in your op
Sheepshank
Nov 2014
#62
Obama must search every restaurant and Landscaping business by hand until EVERY employer
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#109
Should I file this under, "nothing is ever good enough" or under "you can't do two things at once"
FSogol
Nov 2014
#8
and Obama should use the "mighty Executive Order wand" to end poverty immediatly!
VanillaRhapsody
Nov 2014
#111
If Obama WERE an emperor, he could do this. He's not, so J_J_ is just trolling. nt
TheBlackAdder
Nov 2014
#142
Unlike his predecesor who could not walk and chew a pretzel, Obama can do two things at once. nt
Xipe Totec
Nov 2014
#11
"HE IS NOT doing anything"? Nothing? He talked about immigration yesterday so is taking today off?
uppityperson
Nov 2014
#51
President Obama can not legislate (create law) or raise funds so can not create programs
Agnosticsherbet
Nov 2014
#12
If he can make his own path on immigration, he can stand up to the bastards and help the rest of US
J_J_
Nov 2014
#58
The "Bully Pulpit" is a phrase that describes a Presidents ability to sway public opinion.
Agnosticsherbet
Nov 2014
#124
He allowed 8 Billion to be cut from food stamps, even as farm subsidies were increased
J_J_
Nov 2014
#24
That's a total misrepresentation of the changes to food stamps and has no connection
FSogol
Nov 2014
#28
Simply because you may be ignorant of a particular or a specific, does not in fact, make it the case
LanternWaste
Nov 2014
#75
It's getting worse- Obama stood up to them on immigration, why is he helpless on everything else?
J_J_
Nov 2014
#77
I'm not living in poverty or a homeless child. So, no, it isn't a top problem...
Drunken Irishman
Nov 2014
#49
Yes, the people this effects live here and many have the same problems as you are talking about.
jwirr
Nov 2014
#92
Just something about him, cant put my finger on it, he is different, know what I mean? lol
randys1
Nov 2014
#122
How about - it took him an hour to sign new rules for Customs & Border Protection...
brooklynite
Nov 2014
#132
Jesus Christ, Obama could cure cancer, extend life to 150 years, set up medicare for all, ...
MohRokTah
Nov 2014
#138