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bravenak

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25. She is not black. The problem people have is that she told a whole bunch of lies.

Sun Jun 14, 2015, 04:10 PM

Jun 2015

Only white people have the luxury to play pretend at being black. Black people have to be mostly white to pass, like being a octaroon or a quadroon, basically white folks with a few drops of black blood. It's insulting that white folks are now telling us we have to let white ladies be black if they want to be a part of our culture. I guess we don't get to decide for ourselves whether to accept that.

Tiger Woods, King of Pop, and Mariah Carey were NEVER accepted as white. Never! But a white lady wants to play black and go around in wigs and spray tan, and black folks are admonished by white people to accept her. No. She needs help, not a bunch of folks going along with her bullshit. I have never seen white folks this defensive about a black woman before; but for a white woman playing a black woman? Oh, yeah...

We have enough of our identity and culture and history stolen from us. No she cannot be black.

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If Rachel Dolezal wants to embrace black culture... [View all] TeeYiYi Jun 2015 OP

Do you mind my asking what your race is? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #1

I'm white. I'm a mutt... TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #3

Perhaps, this ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #52

Oh, great quote there Gormy Cuss Jun 2015 #73

Yes. A powerful quote ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #77

Thanks for the link… TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #91

I don't think she is being treated as an enemy ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #118

You make a good point... TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #135

I agree ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #137

Precisely. ..nt TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #141

It seems that she also wanted go be in the spotlight: in a starring role, not just part of tblue37 Jun 2015 #173

IMHO, it would have been better if she said she empathizes with black folks and left it at that. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #26

And the false claims of hate crimes cwydro Jun 2015 #2

She made hate crime allegations pretty regularly over recent years. LisaL Jun 2015 #6

She's a nutcase. cwydro Jun 2015 #8

maybe you could consider rephrasing that, please? KittyWampus Jun 2015 #45

I Think "unproven" would be more accurate marshall Jun 2015 #68

I think what she is berated for are all the stories. LisaL Jun 2015 #4

Who did she hurt... TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #5

Well, you can't disown somebody else's parents. LisaL Jun 2015 #7

What have they done to her, other than admit they're her parents? n/t tammywammy Jun 2015 #9

Exactly. LisaL Jun 2015 #10

I think they're leading the charge... TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #11

In their defense, they are not the ones who started it. LisaL Jun 2015 #14

It's hard to say... TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #16

Well as her parents they didn't owe anyone any explanation. politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2015 #44

Exactly. Thank you. ..nt TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #59

Yes get the red out Jun 2015 #126

Spot on! Dont call me Shirley Jun 2015 #241

You don't know that they're shitty parents, GGJohn Jun 2015 #242

Read the signs get the red out Jun 2015 #244

From what I read the media contacted them tammywammy Jun 2015 #15

The media... TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #17

Shift what focus away from themselves? GGJohn Jun 2015 #18

The focus of the lawsuit. TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #19

How do we know the lawsuit is truthful? GGJohn Jun 2015 #20

I guess that remains to be seen... TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #21

They did not tear 840high Jun 2015 #144

Is there a law that one has to speak to the media when contacted by them? kcr Jun 2015 #81

I think if I was lying about who my father is, my parents would certainly set the record straight tammywammy Jun 2015 #82

Nope. I might contact my child and tell them to knock it off. kcr Jun 2015 #84

I agree laundry_queen Jun 2015 #210

I do agree with you about that gollygee Jun 2015 #216

And lying about having to hunt her own food with a bow and arrow, GGJohn Jun 2015 #86

Wow, those sure had to be set straight! Boy, better make sure to talk to the media! kcr Jun 2015 #88

I have to agree that it sounds like there is serious dysfunction there gollygee Jun 2015 #90

Whatever was going on honestly I feel is nobody's business kcr Jun 2015 #92

I doubt the NAACP is ok with this, GGJohn Jun 2015 #93

NAACP's response kcr Jun 2015 #96

I know what their press release said, GGJohn Jun 2015 #99

What do you think possibly changed in two days? kcr Jun 2015 #101

Well, let's see, GGJohn Jun 2015 #107

It would be nice if you linked to some of the things you're claiming n/t kcr Jun 2015 #115

links tammywammy Jun 2015 #120

Note in the link that the NAACP states they're supporting her n/t kcr Jun 2015 #123

Fair enough. GGJohn Jun 2015 #121

... kcr Jun 2015 #124

We'll see, GGJohn Jun 2015 #125

Well won't you just be thrilled, then! kcr Jun 2015 #129

Maybe, just maybe she wouldn't be in this mess if she wasn't a serial liar. GGJohn Jun 2015 #130

So, I was right GGJohn Jun 2015 #175

Yay, you. n/t kcr Jun 2015 #177

I hope she gets the help she needs and finds peace in her life. eom GGJohn Jun 2015 #178

I'm sure you do. n/t kcr Jun 2015 #179

Believe it or not, I truly do. eom. GGJohn Jun 2015 #180

Thank you for the link... TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #106

I hope so kcr Jun 2015 #111

I agree with you... TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #224

Wow!!! GGJohn Jun 2015 #94

Wow!! Way to interpret a post, there! kcr Jun 2015 #97

You said there was something wrong with the parents, yet you didn't say squat GGJohn Jun 2015 #100

Yes. I think there is something wrong with parents who would go to the media kcr Jun 2015 #102

They didn't go to the media, GGJohn Jun 2015 #103

It doesn't matter. They talked. kcr Jun 2015 #104

So what? They did not lie. She did. 840high Jun 2015 #151

There's just no possiblity that they're lying? That just can't be the case? kcr Jun 2015 #154

They told media they are her bio parents. Which they are. LisaL Jun 2015 #181

I'm more than suggesting that they didn't have to take their issues public. kcr Jun 2015 #184

You're absolutely correct... TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #186

Just amazing!!! GGJohn Jun 2015 #187

Yes!! kcr Jun 2015 #188

So, Rachael has no responsibility for the mess she's in? GGJohn Jun 2015 #191

Yes, it's all her parent's fault kcr Jun 2015 #192

Why would they? GGJohn Jun 2015 #195

I'm saying she wouldn't be splashed all over the media if it weren't for her parents. kcr Jun 2015 #200

And I'm saying that if not for her lying about her life experiences, GGJohn Jun 2015 #202

I think her parents... TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #190

And you know all this how? GGJohn Jun 2015 #193

It's pure speculation… TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #203

Do you think there would be this media circus if she hadn't been telling GGJohn Jun 2015 #205

She made her own bed... TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #207

There is no law that says you can't talk to the media either. LisaL Jun 2015 #182

Huh? kcr Jun 2015 #185

So would mine. 840high Jun 2015 #146

Her parents didn't lie about her being whipped like a slave. dballance Jun 2015 #85

And what have they done to her that was so despicable? GGJohn Jun 2015 #12

You would disown your parents if said you were white? Travis_0004 Jun 2015 #22

Telling the truth is such a horrible thing tymorial Jun 2015 #56

LOL what dumb logic. By your logic, cheating is perfectly okay because who does it hurt? Drunken Irishman Jun 2015 #114

They said she is white - which she is. 840high Jun 2015 #148

Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #13

Caitlyn Jenner *is* a woman gollygee Jun 2015 #24

The way gender is expressed is also a social construct marshall Jun 2015 #72

How people express their gender is gollygee Jun 2015 #78

...and, all of which... TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #98

I think Title IX will be greatly impacted LittleBlue Jun 2015 #27

That seems like a discussion for transpeople to have XemaSab Jun 2015 #55

That is actually an old discussion. Google Renee Richards. nt stevenleser Jun 2015 #170

Completely false analogy. Jenner has medical studies and numbers. RD has....herself and lies. WinkyDink Jun 2015 #37

are you really as stupid as "The Right"? Skittles Jun 2015 #63

Well, if anything it points to interesting things about perception Matariki Jun 2015 #23

She is not black. The problem people have is that she told a whole bunch of lies. bravenak Jun 2015 #25

What about the 25% of 'white' american's who ancestors Exultant Democracy Jun 2015 #28

If they have always identified as black, and their parents have always identified, sure. bravenak Jun 2015 #29

Are you saying if your ancestors passed into whiteness its a one way trip? Exultant Democracy Jun 2015 #30

If they passed into whiteness as they left the plantation, their descendants are white. bravenak Jun 2015 #31

As a response both to your post and to my post following yours XemaSab Jun 2015 #70

Boom! bravenak Jun 2015 #71

Reclaiming a hidden racial identity? XemaSab Jun 2015 #58

Excellent post, XemaSab... TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #161

Having DNA vs. being a fabulist, and you see no distinction? Caitlyn isn't just Milton Berle in drag WinkyDink Jun 2015 #38

There's a difference between ann--- Jun 2015 #110

Her saying she is black... TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #32

I'm not actually angry. bravenak Jun 2015 #34

Black people... TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #39

You think straightening our hair is playing white? bravenak Jun 2015 #41

You make a good point... TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #46

Ok, cool, we're good. bravenak Jun 2015 #49

Wow... Spazito Jun 2015 #42

I took several deep breaths reading it. bravenak Jun 2015 #43

I read it more than once because I couldn't believe what I was reading... Spazito Jun 2015 #48

I was quoting bravenak... TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #47

Context is everything, yours was very different, imo, than bravenak's and Spazito Jun 2015 #50

My point being... TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #51

She told people she was black gollygee Jun 2015 #53

I believe some... TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #57

What you said . . . gollygee Jun 2015 #60

People lie. I hope this... TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #67

I was just responding to what you said gollygee Jun 2015 #79

Well, she ain't going public tomorrow, GGJohn Jun 2015 #61

I saw that. No big surprise there. bravenak Jun 2015 #62

I don't know what to put this reply tammywammy Jun 2015 #89

Aww, thanks! I try... bravenak Jun 2015 #95

I wouldn't have thought people would be so vigorously defending a known liar. tammywammy Jun 2015 #112

Exactly. She could have done just as well as herself. bravenak Jun 2015 #116

I don't think it was her decision to postpone... Spazito Jun 2015 #64

They're probably negotiating the terms of her resignation. eom GGJohn Jun 2015 #65

Quite possibly n/t Spazito Jun 2015 #66

Starting to look like it was her decision to postpone suffragette Jun 2015 #155

Hmmm... Spazito Jun 2015 #157

"Black people...play white all the time by wearing straight-haired wigs" Number23 Jun 2015 #75

And your POV is entirely valid. I don't accept her, myself--but I'm not gonna bury her, either. MADem Jun 2015 #159

The woman invented racial harassment against herself, false claims... countryjake Jun 2015 #35

+ a million. Very well said. I actually became tired after reading this OP and the responses within Number23 Jun 2015 #76

Thank you. countryjake Jun 2015 #165

You think that an area crawling with a bunch of rabid racists with verified actual attacks kcr Jun 2015 #117

She claimed to receive harassing letters in the NAACP mailbox tammywammy Jun 2015 #122

Yes. It was PO workers so of course they'd say it was unlikely kcr Jun 2015 #127

Since we know she's a liar, is more likely than not that she's lying here too. tammywammy Jun 2015 #128

Examine how we "know she's a liar" kcr Jun 2015 #131

Well, let's see, GGJohn Jun 2015 #138

That wasn't my question. kcr Jun 2015 #143

By bringing forward the real facts which I just did. eom. GGJohn Jun 2015 #147

Those are are the alleged lies themselves. They didn't just spring forth from the ground, did they? kcr Jun 2015 #149

Whether any of the claims she made were true doesn't matter anymore. countryjake Jun 2015 #133

Okay. Why are you arguing with me why it matters if they're true? kcr Jun 2015 #136

Come again? countryjake Jun 2015 #139

Who is calling it into question? n/t kcr Jun 2015 #142

...^ that 840high Jun 2015 #150

She lIed about abuse and attacks JI7 Jun 2015 #33

I believe she has done more than "pass." She has FABRICATED. She has not one scintilla of Black DNA. WinkyDink Jun 2015 #36

Nobody is denying her work, her passion, her goals. But the "Out of Africa" bit is a tad OTT. Plus, WinkyDink Jun 2015 #40

There's a whole lot wrong with this OP, but to address just one particular point, Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #54

Vitiligo: A day in Lee Thomas' shoes FrodosPet Jun 2015 #145

What about the nose jobs, and the wigs, and the public speaking voice, ZX86 Jun 2015 #204

Michael Jackson didn't exactly "adopt" the children. LisaL Jun 2015 #213

Well they look more Nordic than Thor ZX86 Jun 2015 #215

Ugh celebrity gossip gollygee Jun 2015 #218

Regardless of who the bio father is, the older two are not "adopted." LisaL Jun 2015 #229

Her embracing "black culture" isn't the issue. romanic Jun 2015 #69

CORRECT Skittles Jun 2015 #134

+1 840high Jun 2015 #152

I completely agree Omnith Jun 2015 #74

From what I can tell from what I've read, she is mentally ill. Maedhros Jun 2015 #80

I agree ann--- Jun 2015 #109

The NAACP doesn't and didn't care and that's enough for me. kcr Jun 2015 #83

nope. rd has lost credibility by attempting to change her race. lying about her race did nothing locdlib Jun 2015 #87

There are several big differences between Rachel Dolezal and Iron-Eyes Cody Scootaloo Jun 2015 #105

He lied about his Cherokee-Cree heritage... TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #132

Two things ann--- Jun 2015 #108

Oh, heaven forbid one deny their white heritage kcr Jun 2015 #119

You're silly. 840high Jun 2015 #153

What a thoughtful reply n/t kcr Jun 2015 #156

sorry 840high Jun 2015 #158

It's not a new phenomenon. ZX86 Jun 2015 #201

She didn't just lie about her race. RandySF Jun 2015 #113

Michael Jackson... TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #140

Michael Jackson had a skin disease Catherine Vincent Jun 2015 #160

If you insist. ..nt TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #162

Actually, he did, and his autopsy confirmed it. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #171

Please stop CTBlueboy Jun 2015 #163

Do you have a link to this?... TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #164

. countryjake Jun 2015 #166

Interesting in its irony. Thanks. ..nt TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #167

she's a fraud CTBlueboy Jun 2015 #168

"Faking hate crime makes it harder for real victims of racism" countryjake Jun 2015 #217

Thank you CTBlueboy Jun 2015 #231

It is ok for anyone to embrace black culture! akbacchus_BC Jun 2015 #169

Rachel Dolezal would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for you meddling kids Capt. Obvious Jun 2015 #172

1. Cody was wrong, too. OKAY? 2. Channing had the DNA, likd Tiger. 3. RD is not Black. WinkyDink Jun 2015 #174

Rachel has the right to be who she feels and believes she is. This poutrage about her is Dont call me Shirley Jun 2015 #176

I feel like I should be next in line to the British throne. LisaL Jun 2015 #183

You're gonna have to duke that out with the Queen. Dont call me Shirley Jun 2015 #240

. gollygee Jun 2015 #189

Gollygee, did you know what Dolezal did on Friday night? countryjake Jun 2015 #196

Yes, I saw that gollygee Jun 2015 #197

You & me, both. countryjake Jun 2015 #198

Good post! n/t gollygee Jun 2015 #199

I think kirotv got fooled by a parody account fishwax Jun 2015 #209

See, I wondered about that when I posted it on Sat. I tend to agree. countryjake Jun 2015 #211

I agree with you on all of that fishwax Jun 2015 #212

I did not say or imply that Caitlyn decided she was female. What I am saying is: Dont call me Shirley Jun 2015 #243

Because they aren't equivalent gollygee Jun 2015 #245

I see and accept her point. Dont call me Shirley Jun 2015 #246

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2015 #194

Cody was wrong too. Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #206

She probably suffered some traumatic experience ZX86 Jun 2015 #208

I support Caitlyn and Rachel. prayin4rain Jun 2015 #214

Transracial isn't a thing. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #219

Wrong. prayin4rain Jun 2015 #220

Don't assume I'm a fucking idiot. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #221

You claimed it was invented by some group/website. What word prayin4rain Jun 2015 #223

Liar, fraud. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #225

Wow. n/t prayin4rain Jun 2015 #226

Exactly my reaction when I saw Breitbart and VDARE getting pushed in your posts. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #227

Slate, actually. You are something else. prayin4rain Jun 2015 #228

Race is a social construct based on inherited traits. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #230

How about serial liar? GGJohn Jun 2015 #232

Yes, yes, burn the witch. No compassion, terrible person. Got it, got it, got it. n/t prayin4rain Jun 2015 #233

My compassion is with her parents, GGJohn Jun 2015 #234

WWhy Rachel Dolezal’s Fake ‘Transracial’ Identity Is Nothing Like Being Transgender gollygee Jun 2015 #222

I'm going to step in here... TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #235

Haha, thanks. I've been reading more articles prayin4rain Jun 2015 #236

I'm with you, my friend... TeeYiYi Jun 2015 #237

Thank you, prayin4rain Jun 2015 #238

To take an identity that is not yours... Puha Ekapi Jun 2015 #239