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In reply to the discussion: Neil deGrasse Tyson destroys argument for intelligent design [View all]jeff47
(26,549 posts)66. So you don't know what the word "anthropomorphizing" means.
Might wanna look it up.
Regarding the bad design of humans, wow. I haven't addressed that because it seems too incredible that you would say that.
Good thing I gave specific examples for you to address!
You are sitting at a computer communicating with me. You are typing, but you can't tell me how.
Neurons in my brain cause a nerve impulse to travel down my spinal cord and into my fingers. My fingers press on a keyboard, pushing down on a membrane below the keys. This action closes a circuit within the keyboard, which is interpreted by a chip within the keyboard. The key press is translated by another chip in the keyboard into a USB HID message indicating which key has been pressed. That is transmitted over a USB cable to the USB hub within the computer. The USB hub sends a signal to the keyboard driver, indicating that a key has been pressed. The driver sends a message to the operating system indicating a key has been pressed. The operating system sends a message to the active application indicating that a key has been pressed. The application notifies the rendering engine that a letter needs to be drawn at a specific location. The rendering engine passes that request to the operating system, which passes that request to the graphics driver. Which passes that request to the graphics interface hardware, which updates the frame buffer changing white pixels to black pixels in the shape of the appropriate letter.
Then the neurons in my brain start another nerve impulse down my arm and into my finger, causing my finger to rise off the keyboard. That releases the pressure on the membrane under they key, disconnecting a circuit. A chip within the keyboard detects the circuit has been cut, and signals the USB chip that a USB HID key released message needs to be sent to the computer. That key released message is processed by the USB hub within the computer, and sent to the keyboard driver, indicating that the key has been released. The driver sends a message to the operating system indicating the key has been released. The operating system sends a message to the active application, indicating that a key has been released.
After this process repeats many times (once for each letter), neurons in my brain send a nerve impulse down my arm, causing the muscles in my arm to move my hand over to the mouse, and then similar messages cause my arm to move the mouse. Optical recognition chips within the mouse detect that the surface of the desk has slightly moved. This information is relayed to the USB HID chip within the mouse, which transmits a "mouse moved" message to the USB hub within the computer. The USB hub sends a message to the mouse driver, indicating that the mouse has moved. The mouse driver sends a message to the operating system, indicating the mouse has moved. The operating system sends a message to the graphics driver, indicating that a particular arrow shape should be moved to a new position. The graphics driver sends that message to the graphics device, which updates the framebuffer with the new location of the arrow. It now obscures the "Post my reply" button that has been rendered by the active application.
Do you need me to continue with how clicks are handled, and how network stacks work? Or do you get the point yet that you not understanding something does not mean no one understands something?
By what standards to you judge that you call the human badly designed?
I gave very specific examples. Try reading them.
But science has no real clue as to how life started or how it works.
No, you have no real clue. First, science is a methodology. It doesn't "know" anything.
Second scientists do have a very good understanding of how life started, and how life works. That's why your doctor isn't using leeches to treat you.
What is incredible to me is the single-minded determination to dismiss the possibility of an intelligent source for the universe.
Again, you are not everyone. And your caricature of people you disagree with is not an accurate description.
But it's abundantly clear you are not asking your questions out of any desire to discuss anything. You are here only to insult and deride.
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randys1
Nov 2015
#118
The thermodynamic argument behind Intelligent Design has a simple mathematical error.
DetlefK
Nov 2015
#3
I think of it as a nuclear reactor that is 93 million miles away from the nearest elementary school
eridani
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#159
The smallest features in microprocessors are 15-20 nm. The smallest feature in an organism is <1nm.
DetlefK
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#226
That's either Lazarus Long or Jubal Harshaw speaking from Robert A. Heinlein's typewriter !
Bernardo de La Paz
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#18
And certainly some folks- like 12 steppers- are comfortable doing all sorts of semantic gymnastics
Warren DeMontague
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#167
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Warpy
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#106
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ChisolmTrailDem
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#181
Would you like the Noah's Ark antibiotics or the ones that were intelligently designed?
Bernardo de La Paz
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#19
Being "created" by something was a way for early manking to make sense of the world.
ladyVet
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#20
Why would you post something that clearly wrongly attributes a quote to someone?
tabasco
Nov 2015
#119
Possibly the most idiotic piece of bumper sticker non-wisdom ever floated by the bs brigade.
Warren DeMontague
Nov 2015
#168
yet there is no evidence that a higher power doesnt exist. Enjoy your high horse.
7962
Nov 2015
#187
It is not somehow, science can give you the play by play down to what the atoms are doing.
Rex
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#75
Not at all hard to hash out. You have billions of years and trillions of objects colliding together
Rex
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#82
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#141
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#89
I started with encounters with Conway's program, referenced in Peter Gleick's book on Chaos.
immoderate
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#109
that is what often hangs me up is the beginning of the beginning of the universe
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#49
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#110
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#172
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muriel_volestrangler
Nov 2015
#175
Loved Neil on with Bill Moyer speaking about Religion, Science and the Universe.
Stellar
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#51
I don't believe we're important enough to have a creator. Humans are fairly close to being nothing.
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