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zentrum

(9,869 posts)
80. Hold on there.
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 03:52 PM
Mar 2017

If the top Dem leadership does not heed the lessons of this disastrous last election we risk becoming truly irrelevant.

Obama voters stayed home in droves. How does your theory account for that?
We lost in states that went for Obama last time.
90 Million Americans did not vote.
The Dems have lost at all levels---governorships, and locals across the country. This is beyond the big prize of the WH. There is a problem and it can't all be explained as white backlash.
Obama himself has said Dem messaging about the ACA was poor and unclear. Check. It was.
The Dems are seen as the party of NAFTA and the TOP.
Did not prosecute a single criminal who gave us the Bush Recession.
In fact, their messaging & connecting was so poor that O himself was blamed for the effects of the recession--that this happened comes from messaging and leadership myopia.

The Dems, regardless of some moderately helpful policies, are no longer seen as fighting for or in touch with ordinary people in the middle of the country. On the one hand they really do have Neo-liberal policies that do redistribute income upward, and on the other, when they do something decent, they don't know how to explain it. There is some kind of disconnect. It's time to admit it and pay attention to the exhaustion of the country with politics as usual.

Clearly many T-voters are motivated by fear, hatred and racism. Though this is not more dangerous than the systemic white privilege that dominates everywhere. Let's hope Perez can reach those lost O-voters. And those voters who were so uninspired they stayed home. Because we need to start winning down ticket offices fast.




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VERY VERY good article, the Russia Thing is a KILLER for Benedict Donald !!! uponit7771 Feb 2017 #1
Very interesting article--thank you! renate Feb 2017 #2
Might be easy for you RoadhogRidesAgain Feb 2017 #3
Well said! SammyWinstonJack Feb 2017 #5
I won't forgive those who only regret their choice when it affects THEM renate Feb 2017 #9
+1,000,000! nt tblue37 Feb 2017 #11
+++ nt heaven05 Feb 2017 #32
Just proves to me that there is little we have in common AJT Feb 2017 #4
I agree AndrewRN Feb 2017 #55
If only that were easy, the drawing the map would be impossible. Amishman Feb 2017 #59
Anyone that wants to live in a Trump like place can AJT Feb 2017 #60
For the most part, they zentrum Feb 2017 #6
Their problems haven't been ignored. dawg Feb 2017 #63
Yep. hunter Feb 2017 #70
Hold on there. zentrum Mar 2017 #80
The first step in better messaging is to stand behind our candidates. dawg Mar 2017 #81
I find this utterly depressing. LisaM Feb 2017 #7
The evil liberal boogyman Cosmocat Feb 2017 #12
If we are going to flirt with fascism, then Im hoping for 25% unemployment. The KingCharlemagne Feb 2017 #24
Sadly, you could read "most corrupt candidate ever" here daily during the primaries Blue_Tires Feb 2017 #38
Sigh. I know. LisaM Feb 2017 #61
Sigh, I know. n/t LisaM Feb 2017 #65
I see this all the time: MountCleaners Feb 2017 #8
yeah.. nocalflea Feb 2017 #10
That's one thing that wasn't in the article - "where do you get your news?" JHB Feb 2017 #15
yes, that is very important bdamomma Feb 2017 #33
from business insider link-this was nocalflea Mar 2017 #82
EXACTLY Cosmocat Feb 2017 #13
When they use "snowflake" or "libtard"... MountCleaners Feb 2017 #19
it's a lame hypocritical argument, and it drives me crazy Fast Walker 52 Feb 2017 #67
From what I read.. coco22 Feb 2017 #14
Missing from the article is what shapes those views? Where do they get "information" from? JHB Feb 2017 #16
Exactly. These are people duped by RW propaganda n2doc Feb 2017 #21
toon n2doc Feb 2017 #35
+1 uponit7771 Feb 2017 #52
Spot on Pacifist Patriot Feb 2017 #72
Insults will not move independents, " What do you think about the left's response so far?" TexasProgresive Feb 2017 #17
OK, but... MountCleaners Feb 2017 #20
Some of these people were ours. They were duped and you were not. TexasProgresive Feb 2017 #22
There are mistakes, and then there are mistakes MountCleaners Feb 2017 #23
Well expect them to continue to vote against their selves. TexasProgresive Feb 2017 #25
They are racists. They were never OURS. n/t Coventina Feb 2017 #36
It's a lot more complex than, "They are (all) racists" TexasProgresive Feb 2017 #37
I don't buy it. Trump never opened his mouth without pure hate spilling out. Coventina Feb 2017 #39
I get that, but ultimately.... Adrahil Feb 2017 #41
They ARE racists (or they are OK with racism). And they most definitely ARE idiots. - nt KingCharlemagne Feb 2017 #26
Bingo! The truth is they support racism, blame others for their woes and do not understand the world LonePirate Feb 2017 #47
i predict that, like his predecessor Hoover, Trump will lead us to 25% KingCharlemagne Feb 2017 #48
Why do investors see something so different? AJT Feb 2017 #57
There was irrational exuberance in the markets before the KingCharlemagne Feb 2017 #58
Anticipation of deregulation. elias7 Feb 2017 #64
When they can reasonably explain why it's OK they voted for a racist, I'll stop calling them racist. Coventina Feb 2017 #34
+Infinity - nt KingCharlemagne Feb 2017 #49
+1, what do they tell their kids !?!??!? uponit7771 Feb 2017 #53
Sam Altman Is a Coward oberliner Feb 2017 #18
"Stop calling us racists. Stop calling us idiots. HAB911 Feb 2017 #27
Yeah, my reply to that is... Adrahil Feb 2017 #43
Very interesting article, thanks! I wish they had taken the time to learn what Trump was RKP5637 Feb 2017 #28
why believe bdamomma Feb 2017 #40
Yep, he's a performer and a con artist ... and they fell for every bit of it. n/t RKP5637 Feb 2017 #54
Just as I thought... dchill Feb 2017 #29
What they don't like is that we called them on their bullshit. AgadorSparticus Feb 2017 #30
they really have a thing against bdamomma Feb 2017 #42
no forgivness heaven05 Feb 2017 #31
K&R bdamomma Feb 2017 #44
It never made sense to me why the average Trump voter Blue_Tires Feb 2017 #45
Exactly - they need to use basic common sense rufus dog Feb 2017 #71
Enlightening article and somewhat hopeful, IMHO NewJeffCT Feb 2017 #46
"LET'S BUILD BRIDGES!" "LETS UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER!" "WE'RE REALLY A LOT ALIIIIIKE!!" HughBeaumont Feb 2017 #50
+++10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 nt atreides1 Feb 2017 #56
Plus infinity ismnotwasm Feb 2017 #69
From the responses: guillaumeb Feb 2017 #51
I detest MFM008 Feb 2017 #62
Interesting read. salin Feb 2017 #66
Nothing in that article surprises me ismnotwasm Feb 2017 #68
I've lost track of the numerous articles about travels and journeys to meet with Trump voters.. JHan Mar 2017 #76
Gee they don't like being called ignorant racists. NNadir Feb 2017 #73
We have a lot of uninformed and gullible people in this country. Beacool Feb 2017 #74
Thanks for that article. I wasn't suprised by their "Hillary more corrupt" BS. Buckeye_Democrat Feb 2017 #75
Waste of gasoline. roamer65 Mar 2017 #77
of course the people that want "security" DonCoquixote Mar 2017 #78
+ a zillion lunasun Mar 2017 #79
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