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sir pball

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21. It's not in the cloud.

Reply to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #20)

Thu Sep 18, 2025, 08:40 PM

Sep 18

The entire network is hosted on the personal computers of interested people. If you agree to host a node, you get a "black" chunk of data, a totally encrypted nugget, that gets pulled out and replaced when the data in it needs to be accessed.

BTW Freenet uses DSA…if you know of a chip that can decrypt the DSA algorithm, I think the NSA would like a talk with you.

And yes, I am familiar with Palantir. Freenet-style networks are the best defense against them, even analyzing 1000s of people isn't going to crack that network. There's just no one point of failure.

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Should DU start a Hyphanet site? [View all] sir pball Sep 18 OP

STOP! elleng Sep 18 #1

Stop what? sir pball Sep 18 #2

The more a "possibility" is noisily bruted about, the more possible it gets. Do you want that? Bernardo de La Paz Sep 18 #4

Any backup plan they have will be moot intheflow Sep 18 #8

A gangster web is not resistance bc it will attract more surveillance, not less & attract harsher crackdowns Bernardo de La Paz Sep 18 #10

I haven't written anything off as moot. intheflow Sep 18 #13

Post #8 you wrote "Any backup plan they have will be moot" Bernardo de La Paz Sep 18 #14

Never heard of it. Must be enormously popular, known to all DU members except me, so everyone can find it. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 18 #3

It's the ultimate Dark Web. sir pball Sep 18 #5

If you can join it but you think Patel or Blondi can't surveil it, you are indulging in fantasies Bernardo de La Paz Sep 18 #6

C'mon. intheflow Sep 18 #9

I am well aware of "OG" for years. It is a disgusting homage to criminals from early days of rap and such. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 18 #11

My point about surveilance has not made an impression on you Bernardo de La Paz Sep 18 #12

They can surveil it, but that's all they can do. sir pball Sep 18 #15

Users leave clues in their content. And comprehensive surveillance of internet onramps would be very revealing. . . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 18 #16

Clearly you aren't familiar with the network. sir pball Sep 18 #17

If users can easily talk to each other, then some are talking to bots or agents, particularly on the dark web. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 18 #18

Users can talk fairly easily, but they retain anonymity. sir pball Sep 18 #19

If content is put up to the cloud it can be analyzed. If it is destined to your favorite dark web Bernardo de La Paz Sep 18 #20

It's not in the cloud. sir pball Sep 18 #21

NSA knows more about DSA than we ever will. Plus they have no shortage of compute power. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 18 #22

As a programmer, you should know how Freenet works. sir pball Sep 18 #23

I'll take a look. usonian Sep 18 #7