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Moostache

(10,825 posts)
21. Our constitutional representative republic is meant to function with an informed electorate...
Wed Sep 25, 2024, 12:52 PM
Sep 2024

We have too many people who vote based on emotions and feelings and 'go with the flow' front-runners that vote for whoever seems to be winning too often.

The mechanisms to prevent bad legislation are intended to be remedied at the ballot box - first in the hot-blooded House (where members should face the voters every two years) and then in the cool-reasoned Senate (where lengthier 6 year terms are meant to shield their decisions on key issues from electoral pressures). But here are a few of our current problems:

1) The Congressional district gerrymandering is out of control (on both sides to be fair) and MUST be redrawn to equitably represent the ENTIRE population, not allowing candidates to simply pick their voters.

2) Filibustering where a member MUST HOLD the floor and actually maintain DEBATE (NOT read Green Eggs and Ham) is an honorable and necessary measure for protest and debate on key issues. An anonymous hold, with no requirement to defend or debate the reasons for NOT VOTING on a measure, is unacceptable and should be killed as soon as possible.

3) We cannot have a function government where 85% of the seats are in effect over before they can even reasonably be contested. This is a recipe for abuse and disaster, the former of which we already see and the latter of which we are careening towards with no brakes right now.

4) People simply MUST take their vote more seriously. They MUST reject Facebook, X, Instagram and other online lie factories and actually seek out independent and real journalism to inform themselves. We are (as a collective) far too susceptible to lies, manipulation and FOMO-style influencers for any good to come of it.

Fix the rules and districts and the Congress can be on a path to repair. Buit live and let live in the status quo? Collapse is the end result of that path. It is 2024. We need to STOP VOTING and ACTING like its 1850.

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Manchin is well " No One". FarPoint Sep 2024 #1
Well said! SheltieLover Sep 2024 #51
DINO says what? Meadowoak Sep 2024 #2
He's not even a DINO. He registered as an independent this year. nt SunSeeker Sep 2024 #14
The same guy who previously endorsed Hogan in MD BeyondGeography Sep 2024 #3
Well there goes WV's electoral votes. I am sure that's quite a blow to Harris/Walz. nt Gore1FL Sep 2024 #4
WV was already in the bag for Trump, BlueKentuckyGirl Sep 2024 #38
Asswipe. cilla4progress Sep 2024 #5
I doubt he would have endorsed her no matter what. NH Ethylene Sep 2024 #6
Best thing for America and democracy is bluestarone Sep 2024 #7
Joe who? RandySF Sep 2024 #8
He is right hueymahl Sep 2024 #9
I reject your premise ENTIRELY... Moostache Sep 2024 #12
I understand that point of view hueymahl Sep 2024 #17
Time has given us a lot of scars to say its not worked out well so far. Moostache Sep 2024 #18
I like your 5 day plan! If we could actually do that, what a new world we would have! LymphocyteLover Sep 2024 #47
Thanks, but I stole the idea from FDR and the New Deal partly... Moostache Sep 2024 #49
Certainly if we win the WH and Congressional majorities, we HAVE to do some big bold stuff like what you propose LymphocyteLover Sep 2024 #55
Wrong. The future is NOW. NoMoreRepugs Sep 2024 #52
Manchin is a useless DINO gohuskies Sep 2024 #10
He's a registered independent now, like Sinema. SunSeeker Sep 2024 #16
The Senate has four independent senators are not Democrats: King, Manchin, Sanders and Sinema. n/t 24601 Sep 2024 #53
Excuse my French... Moostache Sep 2024 #11
Go back to your yacht, Manchin Bayard Sep 2024 #13
Manchin described the filibuster as "the holy grail of democracy" -- even if it shd be kept, that is beyond ridiculous cloudythescribbler Sep 2024 #15
Our constitutional representative republic is meant to function with an informed electorate... Moostache Sep 2024 #21
You've really been on a roll in this thread, Moostache. Great job! Frank D. Lincoln Sep 2024 #54
I tried to get Manchin to do what he could to end the filibuster. Lasher Sep 2024 #19
Once a turd, always a turd. I'm just surprised he didn't pull a complete Joe Lieberman. cstanleytech Sep 2024 #20
Huh. Joe Manchin a moderate. BobTheSubgenius Sep 2024 #22
Fuck you where you breathe, Manchin. (nt) Paladin Sep 2024 #23
Shame on u Manchin for being a sellout. onetexan Sep 2024 #24
He can't leave Washington soon enough. ificandream Sep 2024 #25
i truly despise this traitor samsingh Sep 2024 #26
That's just the excuse he's using today. He was never going to endorse her ms liberty Sep 2024 #27
Jesus, idiot wryter2000 Sep 2024 #28
An entitled rich white man telling one of the most successful women in America "shame in her" ColinC Sep 2024 #29
To quote someone we all know... grumpyduck Sep 2024 #30
Get the hell out of the way Manchin tornado34jh Sep 2024 #31
F..king shame on you...go away PortTack Sep 2024 #32
Oh dear, Madam Vice President tavernier Sep 2024 #33
I prefer less greedy people when already rich. Brainfodder Sep 2024 #34
It isn't the real filibuster anymore, anyway. raging moderate Sep 2024 #35
Exactly! 3catwoman3 Sep 2024 #39
There needs to be a book trashing him LiberalFighter Sep 2024 #36
Shame on HER???? Karma13612 Sep 2024 #37
Everytime someone on TV calls Manchin a "moderate" I literally yell at the TV JoetheShow Sep 2024 #40
"leading Senate moderate: Joe Manchin" orangecrush Sep 2024 #41
Who is this "Manchin" person of whom you speak? AverageOldGuy Sep 2024 #42
Well....I say From The Ashes Sep 2024 #43
Eat me, Smokey Joe. LudwigPastorius Sep 2024 #44
shame on her???? Shame on him!!! LymphocyteLover Sep 2024 #45
Shame on HIM DemonGoddess Sep 2024 #46
Power over people, his choice Maeve Sep 2024 #48
Shame on Manchin. By the way, how big is the guy's yacht? Built on coal...n/t PatrickforB Sep 2024 #50
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