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4. Hand-COUNTABLE ballots are a good thing.

Sun Apr 13, 2025, 03:08 PM

Apr 13

The proper approach is hand-countABLE, optically scanned ballots.

The optical scanning is done right away. Counts are available very quickly.

The CORRECT approach - as far as I can tell, not well followed - is a random audit of a certain per cent of precincts, meaning that some precincts are hand-counted AFTER the official count is reported. The audit results are compared with the reported optical scan results for those precincts. If there is a difference found between the hand count and the machine count, then an investigation is triggered and potentially more precincts should be audited.

This is how you can have quick results but also have the ability to do a reliable audit.

Funding for a certain audit level should be guaranteed by state budgets. Just like corporations set aside funds to do internal audits.

It is explained better here.

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Trump's order could force states to buy costly new voting machines [View all] mahatmakanejeeves Apr 13 OP

He wants machines the gop can rig.... Karadeniz Apr 13 #1

He may get the handcounting that he can't rig. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 13 #5

Id like to make handcounting required, but its in the hands of the states. Maybe Karadeniz Apr 13 #10

One solution: both approaches Bernardo de La Paz Apr 13 #14

Why are so many in favor of hand counting ballots if it is time consuming and prone to errors ? MichMan Apr 13 #2

Hand-COUNTABLE ballots are a good thing. RandomNumbers Apr 13 #4

Because US ballots are so complicated. Should be three ballots and three boxes Bernardo de La Paz Apr 13 #6

If they don't end up in the right box, then what? MichMan Apr 13 #15

No, one day. Any in the wrong box will be minimal and will get sorted out in due course Bernardo de La Paz Apr 13 #16

same reason why that is how recounts are done stillcool Apr 13 #7

Great response below yours. It sounds better underpants Apr 13 #9

Machine counting in Florida 2000 GoreWon2000 Apr 13 #21

Interfering w/ state's rights in running elections. I don't think this will stand up in court. SWBTATTReg Apr 13 #3

He's trying in all sorts of ways to interfere with state's rights slightlv Apr 13 #19

His order will not stand Fiendish Thingy Apr 13 #8

Didn't Ivanka patent a brand of voting machines in China??? Are they coming here now? Evolve Dammit Apr 13 #11

Explanation here RandomNumbers Apr 13 #12

Actually... Trump shot the R's in their feet... Mustellus Apr 13 #13

The Constitution says the States The Wizard Apr 13 #17

This has Leon Musk's stench all over it Bayard Apr 13 #18

THIS! x 1000 for me, Bayard! slightlv Apr 13 #20