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110. Politifact- President Donald Trump says Kilmar Abrego Garcia has "'MS-13' on his knuckles." Pants on Fire!

Wed Apr 30, 2025, 07:14 PM

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PolitiFact
Trump stated yesterday in ABC interview: Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia “had ‘MS-13’ on his knuckles tattooed. He had ‘MS’ as clear as you can be. Not 'interpreted.’”
Pants on Fire!
They don’t appear in other photos including one shared by Salvadoran government--and more

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In an interview with ABC News’ Terry Moran, President Donald Trump doubled and tripled down on whether deportee Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia has MS13, representing the MS-13 gang, tattooed on his knuckles. Trump cited an altered image as evidence.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2025/apr/30/donald-trump/trump-abrego-garcia-hand-tattoos-abc-news/

Our ruling
Trump said Abrego Garcia "had ‘MS-13’ on his knuckles tattooed. … He had ‘MS’ as clear as you can be. Not 'interpreted.’"

The figures M, S, 1 and 3 and the words below the symbols don’t appear in other photographs of Abrego Garcia’s hand, including one shared by the Salvadoran government.

Experts in MS-13 and other gangs say the pictorial tattoos shown are not typical designs for MS-13 or other gangs, and they say that several of those tattoos are commonly used by people unaffiliated with gangs.

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Trump Touts Seemingly Doctored Photo of Abrego Garcia's Hand in Attempt To Prove Maryland Man Is Gang Member [View all] BumRushDaShow Apr 19 OP

I would love for them to present manufactured evidence in court. Buddyzbuddy Apr 19 #1

That 2019 "police report" was completely manufactured BumRushDaShow Apr 19 #5

Post removed Post removed Apr 19 #16

There have been reports about the cop who wrote it up BumRushDaShow Apr 19 #22

My opinion has waxed and waned over the years. Littlered Apr 19 #28

Cops are people. Some are good, some are bad, some are VERY bad Attilatheblond Apr 19 #31

And many are magats. GreenWave Apr 19 #43

Good on him. 👍 electric_blue68 Apr 19 #90

I have at least one past relative who was a D.C. cop and who was shot and killed on the job back in the '40s BumRushDaShow Apr 19 #35

Post removed Post removed Apr 19 #47

You are supporting the way fascism manifests BumRushDaShow Apr 19 #67

This has gone way past Garcia. hadEnuf Apr 19 #77

Exactly BumRushDaShow Apr 19 #79

The right Wingers don't run the Constitution. hadEnuf Apr 19 #82

I wonder if there is any obscure law or Constitutional manuver that can be used on Trump. hadEnuf Saturday #108

If there had been non-loon Department heads BumRushDaShow Sunday #109

AYFKM?? THIS??? A photo of a hand, with no indication of the body to which niyad Apr 19 #49

Trump doing this is more than idiotic--it is DANGEROUS--it tells kids it is OK to lie!! riversedge Apr 19 #53

OMG MorbidButterflyTat Apr 19 #98

WHEN do I get to NOT SEE another photo of the donald? calimary Apr 20 #104

I here ya BumRushDaShow Apr 20 #105

I've missed that part dpibel Apr 19 #102

People are "flocking to this persons defense" COL Mustard Apr 19 #26

Fair enough. Littlered Apr 19 #41

ai searches? And, clearly, you DO have feelings on this matter, as you are niyad Apr 19 #48

What do you call it when the government ignores the SC and all the other courts? tulipsandroses Apr 19 #57

The reason it is a constitutional crisis drmeow Apr 19 #74

Well no one knows because he was denied due process. travelingthrulife Apr 19 #27

Try nwduke Apr 19 #38

It doesn't matter if he is a bad guy Henry203 Apr 19 #39

There is a little thing called "due process" ...even low energy research ought to enlighten you NotHardly Apr 19 #50

It's really irrelevant. Scruffy1 Apr 19 #54

Hey GOP: Stop lying to Americans BoRaGard Apr 19 #2

Telling the truth is not in their nature. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 19 #59

I'm guessing the decision to post that doctored photo occurred before they realized the Baitball Blogger Apr 19 #3

I am learning not to trust photos or the photographer ChazII Apr 19 #4

The "AI" bullshit BumRushDaShow Apr 19 #8

I can actually see a day when we return to edited paper news, because that will be the only Scrivener7 Apr 19 #12

Edited by AI?? InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 19 #56

Now, what do you think would be the answer to that question? Scrivener7 Apr 19 #63

I agree. MorbidButterflyTat Apr 19 #99

TSF's photo reeks as a fake. The letters don't look like tattoos. sinkingfeeling Apr 19 #6

Did TCF in the WH whip out his damned Sharpie again? Attilatheblond Apr 19 #33

the letters are clearly added in but other photos of KAG shows him with the finger tattoos LymphocyteLover Apr 19 #36

I've never seen a more obviously fake picture in my life. Wiz Imp Apr 19 #64

The few photos of the guy out there don't seem to show any tats. nt Shermann Apr 19 #7

No, he does seem to have the symbols, whatever they mean. LymphocyteLover Apr 19 #37

I see Shermann Apr 19 #45

So Trump's post added in the MS-13? Polybius Apr 19 #71

seemingly, yes LymphocyteLover Apr 19 #91

arm tattoos but no photos of him with the knuckle tattoos cadoman Apr 19 #83

In the second link, there is photo which appears to be a mirror image. John1956PA Apr 19 #87

All I will say is that Fox News and Trump have a captive audience that hears a horrible story Captain Zero Apr 19 #9

Fox viewers are racists. They don't give a damn if he's a choirboy. Thats not the point tulipsandroses Apr 19 #17

So, POTUS used a doctored photo as evidence? NCDem47 Apr 19 #10

It takes discipline to not believe evidence that shows you what you want to believe.. Buddyzbuddy Apr 19 #11

What's the obsession with this poor man? Joinfortmill Apr 19 #13

The obsession comes from Trump having a Constitutional wrench thrown in his deportation plans Ohioboy Apr 19 #19

exactly... it's taken on a whole life of its own now and KAG is a pawn in this bigger battle LymphocyteLover Apr 19 #40

In America the government can't label you a criminal without due process, period. Ohioboy Apr 19 #14

How long until they claim it's Van Hollen's photo which is doctored? Wiz Imp Apr 19 #15

We All Can Play That Game... MayReasonRule Apr 19 #18

Those look much better than what Trump put forward. chouchou Apr 19 #24

And if you zoom in on that photo, you can see a rectangular boundary tanyev Apr 19 #20

Seemingly? AltairIV Apr 19 #21

Exactly. Seemingly? It is so obviously fake that it would be laughable if the situation weren't so serious. Wiz Imp Apr 19 #65

RWNJs are claiming that the tatoos are code William Seger Apr 19 #23

And then you have RWNJs themselves with tattoos (including those running a department) that don't even need decoding BumRushDaShow Apr 19 #25

So those tattoos are well known ciode for MS13? There should be other examples of LymphocyteLover Apr 19 #42

I've looked, couldn't find anything like that or anyone claiming it before William Seger Apr 19 #46

it's called projection cadoman Apr 19 #84

Dump's new AI software: Photoslop Blue Owl Apr 19 #29

Lots of unpacking to do here -- here's what I think happened EarlG Apr 19 #30

That's exactly what they were trying to do BumRushDaShow Apr 19 #69

Yeah, it was added in Polybius Apr 19 #72

The real meaning is W Weed, W Wasted (smiley face), J Jesus (cross), D Death (skull) W.W.J.D. Galraedia Apr 19 #94

Photo with Senator Hollen does not have those tattoos Bernardo de La Paz Apr 19 #100

more like lies social PedroXimenez Apr 19 #32

Don't worry! The Salvadoran torture prison will tattoo him for Donnie Dipshit maxrandb Apr 19 #34

No doubt!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 19 #58

It wouldn't matter if the guy had MS13 tattooed across his forehead in red letters. Ohioboy Apr 19 #44

At least they got the number of fingers correct this time - nm ThoughtCriminal Apr 19 #51

a few facts -- azureblue Apr 19 #52

The Dicktator-in-Chief should be impeached for this reason alone... as well as dozens of other reasons. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 19 #55

Should we imprison MAGAts with tattoos too? IronLionZion Apr 19 #60

History lessons: During the Singaporean Massacre (Sook Ching) during WW2, the Japanese went after the Singaporeans AZLD4Candidate Apr 19 #61

Roy Cohn taught him to never admit a mistake. louis-t Apr 19 #62

If you have to lie to make a point greatbaldeagle Apr 19 #66

Amazed! Does not appear to have been altered with a Sharpie! nt aka-chmeee Apr 19 #68

Back in the USSR, where doctored photos were an art form and tool of the State Hekate Apr 19 #70

Next minute . . . Aussie105 Apr 19 #73

If there was a trial tavernier Apr 19 #75

He thinks we are all as stupid as he is.. rickyhall Apr 19 #76

Does his glove fit? twodogsbarking Apr 19 #78

Imbecile used the wrong fake. usonian Apr 19 #80

He had to pick one quick including Meatloaf's as an option! BumRushDaShow Apr 19 #95

Oh no! Not Meatloaf again! usonian Apr 19 #96

... BumRushDaShow Apr 19 #97

Got caught again. Sneederbunk Apr 19 #81

For a man who is a chronic liar, he never could do it worth a shit. Insanity and ignorance lower his aptitude. Magoo48 Apr 19 #85

First of all: Of course it's a doctored photo RVN VET71 Apr 19 #86

The MS13 text added isn't supposed to be the tattoo... WarGamer Apr 19 #88

With the close-up, a "thinking person" would figure that out BumRushDaShow Apr 19 #89

Trump's the dumbest MF ever... WarGamer Apr 19 #101

I believe it's 'shopped, but is there a pic without the tats? JohnnyRingo Apr 19 #92

No hand joke but this........ twodogsbarking Apr 19 #93

The MS13 is added to show what they think the tattoos stand for. Let's not be stupid. OverBurn Apr 19 #103

"The MS13 is added to show what they think the tattoos stand for. Let's not be stupid." BumRushDaShow Apr 20 #107

don't forget Snoopy 7 Apr 20 #106

Politifact- President Donald Trump says Kilmar Abrego Garcia has "'MS-13' on his knuckles." Pants on Fire! LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #110

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