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Wiz Imp

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36. The Trump administration said they were trying to "round up" criminals, i.e. people who have committed offenses beyond
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 04:55 PM
Jul 13

their immigration status. Of course they lied. They're actually arresting anyone who looks Hispanic. People whose only offense is being in the country without documentation are NOT CRIMINALS.

https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/field_document/FINAL_criminalizing_undocumented_immigrants_issue_brief_PUBLIC_VERSION.pdf

From the ACLU:

Is the fact of being present in the United States in violation of the immigration laws a
crime?

No. The act of being present in the United States in violation of the immigration laws is not,
standing alone, a crime. While federal immigration law does criminalize some actions that
may be related to undocumented presence in the United States, undocumented presence
alone is not a violation of federal criminal law. Thus, many believe that the term “illegal
alien,” which may suggest a criminal violation, is inaccurate or misleading.

Entering the United States without being inspected and admitted, i.e., illegal entry, is a
misdemeanor or can be a felony, depending on the circumstances. 8 U.S.C. § 1325. But many
undocumented immigrants do not enter the United States illegally. They enter legally but
overstay, work without authorization, drop out of school or violate the conditions of their visas
in some other way. Current estimates are that approximately 45% of undocumented
immigrants did not enter illegally. See Pew Hispanic Center, Modes of Entry for the
Unauthorized Migrant Population [May 22, 2006].

Undocumented presence in the United States is only criminally punishable if it occurs after an
individual was previously formally removed from the United States and then returned without
permission. 8 U.S.C. § 1326 (any individual previously “deported or removed” who “enters,
attempts to enter, or is at any time found in” the United States without authorization may be
punished by imprisonment up to two years). Mere undocumented presence in the United
States alone, however, in the absence of a previous removal order and unauthorized reentry,
is not a crime under federal law.

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ICE can beat up and kill anyone they want. Irish_Dem Jul 13 #1
"They assaulted my ears with insults, so I had to defend myself by fracturing their skulls." Girard442 Jul 13 #2
Fat nazi pig! wolfie001 Jul 13 #3
gICEstapo Uber Ales (R) BoRaGard Jul 13 #4
No longer a country of laws when a wannabe king decides who can overpower whom. sinkingfeeling Jul 13 #5
We are at war. Make no mistake. twodogsbarking Jul 13 #6
I wish more would understand this. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Jul 13 #18
ICE is supposed to follow the law too. (In reality, they are breaking the law left and right) Wiz Imp Jul 13 #7
Correct; It is not a criminal offense, but is however a civil offense MichMan Jul 13 #35
The Trump administration said they were trying to "round up" criminals, i.e. people who have committed offenses beyond Wiz Imp Jul 13 #36
"Current estimates are that approximately 45% of undocumented immigrants did not enter illegally. " MichMan Jul 13 #37
Roughly 62% of undocumented immigrants are estimated to have initially entered the U.S. on valid visas but overstayed Wiz Imp Jul 13 #40
What about Traildogbob Jul 13 #8
heyh. i was just going to say that and you beat me to it. bravo , eggscllent AllaN01Bear Jul 13 #16
🤜🏼🤛🏼 Traildogbob Jul 13 #21
The little 🍄 dlilafae Jul 13 #9
Trump's Brownshirts. Timeflyer Jul 13 #10
...and the Trump Party Congress just voted to give them $170 billion of our dollars to... LudwigPastorius Jul 13 #29
Is there a tariff on law? Marthe48 Jul 13 #11
Protecting citizens from a guy running a weed eater at Ihop Trump?? Bengus81 Jul 13 #12
Total BULLSHIT, but i see THIS as HIS way to get his bluestarone Jul 13 #13
"...just like they protect the Public" markie Jul 13 #14
Trump is actually DENVERPOPS Jul 13 #15
When they murder people, he'll pardon them a second time IronLionZion Jul 13 #17
And bringing along all their DENVERPOPS Monday #46
and now comes the wholesale killing. nt Javaman Jul 13 #19
California can pass their own laws oldmanlynn Jul 13 #20
Or as a society we say enough Hornedfrog2000 Jul 13 #39
Newsom, are you listening? n/t AntiFascist Jul 13 #44
Federal still supersedes state laws though Polybius Jul 13 #45
Next step is to declare martial law. . . . h2ebits Jul 13 #22
You know it's coming Zorro Jul 13 #23
Shoot to kill..... Bayard Jul 13 #24
John Roberts, the "gift that keeps on giving" Miles Archer Jul 13 #25
Brass knuckles and dirks? Sneederbunk Jul 13 #26
SCROTUS said he can do anything he wants if he decides it's official duty Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 13 #27
Just who ARE ICE agents, though DFW Jul 13 #28
i live in texas moonshinegnomie Jul 13 #30
Apparently they have raided there BumRushDaShow Jul 13 #31
He's really salivating over a pretext for martial law. PSPS Jul 13 #32
Headline should read: LT Barclay Jul 13 #33
This will be interpreted as... jmowreader Jul 13 #34
Let's be perfectly clear BidenRocks Jul 13 #38
This bastard really thinks he's a fucking king. bluestarone Jul 13 #41
So, what's going to happen now? We're going to have a bunch of new fake ICE agents running around, w/ no IDs, no SWBTATTReg Jul 13 #42
The authority he thinks he has TimeToGo Jul 13 #43
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