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Stargleamer

(2,465 posts)
31. I agree. . .
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 07:36 PM
Yesterday

that your main points/claims were in your view the absurdity of using the ratio of number of Palestinians killed to the number of meals served is real low and thus it strains credulity that the IDF would come up with such a plan if they are trying to maximize Palestinian deaths. A second main point or claim you make is it is absurd in your view to believe that the IDF was using the free food offered to Palestinians as bait to kill more Palestinians at a certain location, as to use your words there are logistical problems in doing that to maximum effect, as referenced by your claim that there were kills half a mile away.

However, when you write, "Even if accounts of the ubiquitous "local health officials and witnesses" are to be taken for granted as god's honest truth. . .", you are making a minor point or claim that it is at best uncertain or at most doubtful that such accounts can be trusted. Even if implies doubt or at least uncertainty. At least that's how I see it. And so i asked you what source do you trust, which you didn't address, because you are making other points rendering any answer of no consequence to your 2 main points or claims. But it is only natural when one reads your post to wonder what sources you trust given your uncertainty or doubt of the accuracy of such reports of these slaughters, even if it is just a minor point or claim.

But to get to one of your main points, you state that the article gives a ratio of number of Palestinians killed to the number of meals served is "one death per 10,000" meals served and then you proceed to use that "absurd" ratio to argue against claims you view as absurd, that the IDF would take a such a course of action given its low kill ratio. But the denominator in this ratio strikes me as off and faulty and misleading, given that each and every hungry Palestinian wasn't just having one meal out of every 10,000 that were served but probably had to go back numerous times to be fed sufficiently. If I and someone go out for dinner and we are each served 5 entrees and I eat 3 of them and my companion eats 2, and then I am struck dead by an IDF bomb while my companion lives to tell the tale, then 1 person died out of the 5 entrees that were served, (a 20% ratio) but there were only 2 people there at that restaurant and one died out of 2 (a 50% ratio), well, I think you should begin to see how faulty using number of meals served as a denominator. Given the uncertainty of the denominator, I don't think you can employ this ratio to argue that it is absurd that the IDF would come up with such a plan, given how little carnage it would yield, because this ratio gives you no clearcut evidence of how many were slaughtered per number of unique individuals who have eaten at such food distribution centers.

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How annalog Saturday #1
Some hunters do that. Kid Berwyn Saturday #2
Yes it is a deliberate ambush. Starve people, lure them with food, shoot them in cold blood. Irish_Dem Yesterday #26
It's a blood lust now nowforever Saturday #3
It really is Scott Alan Swaggerty Yesterday #25
May all involved receive everything they deserve. niyad Saturday #4
More ethnic cleansing. War criminal Netanyahu/the IDF are showing incredible discretion in being satisfied with... brush Saturday #5
Bait. Linda ladeewolf Saturday #6
Indeed Scott Alan Swaggerty Yesterday #24
And sadly, so should we. thought crime Yesterday #32
It was designed to do exactly what it is doing. AloeVera Saturday #7
The absurdity of responses here is mind boggling. Beastly Boy Saturday #8
In case you didn't realize... AloeVera Saturday #11
No, I didn't realize. And I have no idea whose description of ethnic cleansing you are using or how competent Beastly Boy Saturday #15
Ethnic cleansing is not necessarily done with killing, but the removal of Linda ladeewolf 23 hrs ago #33
Cute 'splaining of what Israel wants. Beastly Boy 22 hrs ago #34
What source then do you trust to tell you how many Palestinians have been killed by the IDF since 10/7? Stargleamer Saturday #16
I didn't challenge the numbers, did I? Beastly Boy Saturday #19
I agree. . . Stargleamer Yesterday #31
"Even if" does indeed imply doubt. However, it also implies that this doubt doesn't play a role Beastly Boy 19 hrs ago #36
But the ratio of meals to kills is useless in making the point you are trying to make Stargleamer 5 hrs ago #38
The ratio of kills to meals is absurd, but it is far from useless. Beastly Boy 3 hrs ago #39
Exactly cabotnn22 Saturday #17
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The slavish adoration for this blood-soaked murderer of children AloeVera Saturday #12
As do many Congressional Democrats Polybius Saturday #13
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Yes. Release the hostages. Disarm Hamas. The war ends 24 hours later. Beastly Boy Sunday #20
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Look at the map in the NYT article, 3 out of the 4 aid sites are in the south .... cliffside Sunday #22
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Seems that way .... cliffside 20 hrs ago #35
Trump said he was going to relocate them to a beautiful place. Irish_Dem 14 hrs ago #37
Unacceptable Scott Alan Swaggerty Yesterday #23
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