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30. USSC: : 2020: "declined to rule on whether a president has the authority to exclude undocumented immigrants "

Thu Aug 7, 2025, 12:39 PM

Aug 7

Trump Orders New Census, Declaring Undocumented Migrants ‘WILL NOT BE COUNTED’
https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/trump-orders-new-census-declaring-undocumented-migrants-will-not-be-counted/
USSC: : 2020: "declined to rule on whether a president has the authority to exclude undocumented immigrants "
David Gilmour Aug 7th, 2025, 8:29 am

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I have instructed our Department of Commerce to immediately begin work on a new and highly accurate CENSUS based on modern day facts and figures and, importantly, using the results and information gained from the Presidential Election of 2024. People who are in our Country illegally WILL NOT BE COUNTED IN THE CENSUS. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

The Constitution mandates a nationwide census every 10 years to determine how congressional seats are apportioned among the states which the 14th Amendment adds should include the “whole number of persons in each state.”

The push comes during a high-profile clash in Texas in which Republicans are campaigning to redraw electoral maps. Texas Democrats fled the state last week in a dramatic effort to protest the GOP-led redistricting bill, which could carve out up to five new seats for conservatives.

The Supreme Court blocked a citizenship question from the 2020 census during Trump’s first term and declined to rule on whether a president has the authority to exclude undocumented immigrants from apportionment counts, a legal question likely to resurface if Trump’s proposal advances.

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Trump orders Commerce Dept. to begin work on new census [View all] BumRushDaShow Aug 7 OP

A census costs a lot of money, and takes a lot of temporary employees to accomplish Fiendish Thingy Aug 7 #1

The SCOTUS ruled 5-4 that doing the "citizenship" thing was illegal BumRushDaShow Aug 7 #4

I'm sure they will get around the ruling by just not asking the question Fiendish Thingy Aug 7 #6

In this case BumRushDaShow Aug 7 #8

Yeah, this will likely be another "Infrastructure Week" situation. Nt Fiendish Thingy Aug 7 #14

They ruled that *asking* about someone's citizenship was illegal Fiendish Thingy Aug 7 #44

Oh they would racially/ethnicaly profile in a hot minute! BumRushDaShow Aug 7 #45

Not when "Big Balls" is in charge. thought crime Aug 7 #42

Am I wrong or don't most of the undocumented no_hypocrisy Aug 7 #2

The Census Bureau uses statistical models to estimate those who do not respond including non citizens. Wiz Imp Aug 7 #21

My husband worked on the 2000 and 2010 Census. ProudMNDemocrat Aug 7 #3

I also worked the census in 2010. ananda Aug 7 #31

yeah a "census". Javaman Aug 7 #5

"My deportation plan was a complete success... There are now ZERO illegal immigrants in the U.S.!" thesquanderer Aug 7 #29

The terms of a census is in the Constitution pioche4 Aug 7 #7

Correct. murielm99 Aug 7 #35

Well, considering how he really BLEW it for the last census... FakeNoose Aug 7 #9

Blatantly unconstitutional liberalgunwilltravel Aug 7 #10

ANOTHER distraction. mwb970 Aug 7 #11

If they aren't counted, won't state counts go down causing less congressional seats. mdbl Aug 7 #12

Apportionment would probably change for CA & TX... SickOfTheOnePct Aug 7 #13

And FL. BumRushDaShow Aug 7 #17

I doubt that FL... SickOfTheOnePct Aug 7 #18

FL is full of migrants from the Caribbean BumRushDaShow Aug 7 #19

Oh, they have tons of immigrants... SickOfTheOnePct Aug 7 #20

I updated the OP with an article about the labor trafficking that is a problem there. BumRushDaShow Aug 7 #22

The six states with the largest unauthorized immigrant populations in 2022 were: Wiz Imp Aug 7 #25

Trump is not talking about doing a new Census videohead5 Aug 7 #15

He explicitly said he was ordering a "new census". Recounting a previous census is not a new census. Wiz Imp Aug 7 #23

Yes, and Trump is always so precise in his use of language. thesquanderer Aug 7 #28

True. But the linked article gives no indication that Trump was talking about redoing the 2020 Census. Wiz Imp Aug 7 #32

Read this videohead5 Aug 7 #34

Where did that come from? You didn't include a link. Wiz Imp Aug 7 #36

Link videohead5 Aug 7 #37

Thank you! Wiz Imp Aug 7 #38

He stopped the census early in 2020. That must not have been enough to tip the scales. live love laugh Aug 7 #16

A Census can't just happen happen without any planning. Wiz Imp Aug 7 #24

I posted their previous Census schedule upthread (in an ebedded link though) BumRushDaShow Aug 7 #26

From the Census Website: Planning for the 2030 Census is Underway Wiz Imp Aug 7 #27

USSC: : 2020: "declined to rule on whether a president has the authority to exclude undocumented immigrants " riversedge Aug 7 #30

The constitution is 100% clear that apportionment is to be based on the proportion of RESIDENTS Wiz Imp Aug 7 #41

They could save a lot of time and trouble if they just had ICE conducting the census, Bayard Aug 7 #33

Will the census takers count and release the epstein files? PSPS Aug 7 #39

Just say "No." travelingthrulife Aug 7 #40

At the very least, this will send census intimidation into the stratosphere. thought crime Aug 7 #43

2030 Census would be under the next President Smackdown2019 Aug 7 #46

One side note... Smackdown2019 Aug 7 #47

After reading some of the comments I just realized what he really means jgmiller Aug 7 #48